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Old 01-25-2005, 10:00 PM   #1
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DVD+R and DVD-R i thought they were the same thing ?


IRemember th good old days ? when there were CD-ROM (read only memory) then there wIN
ere CD-W's (writables) and then CD-RW (re-writables).. well, assuming nothing changed i bought a DVD-writer.. it supports DVD+R, DVD-R DL, DVD-R, DVD+RW,




DVD-RW, HD-BURN plus all of the CD writables that are so much easyer to undersand. Im only 20 years old, and im already behinf on technology !

in my Day Cell's were battery's, and mobile phones had aerials that dug into your leg as you walked.
 
Old 01-25-2005, 11:20 PM   #2
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Re: DVD+R and DVD-R i thought they were the same thing ?

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in my Day Cell's were battery's, and mobile phones had aerials that dug into your leg as you walked.

Don't feel too bad. In my day cell's were where you recieved 3 hots and cot if you'd been naughty. And mobile phones were only in Alexander Bell's wildest dreams. But I hear ya, all the different DVD formats available, with still more to come, are a little annoying. You'd think they'd settle on a single standard and stick to it for awhile, not!
 
Old 01-26-2005, 04:30 AM   #3
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Yes, next we will have HDDVD and BlueRay to further confuse things

And I'd 42, so I'm really in trouble
 
Old 01-26-2005, 04:57 AM   #4
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wow, sorry for the format there guys, i was using links (compiling gentoo)

so whats the difference ?
which one will be most compatable for other PC Data DVD readers ?

and which one is compatable for the standalone Video dvd players ?
 
Old 01-26-2005, 05:28 AM   #5
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Actually it's a pain. Some of our older standalone dvd players will only play dvd-r and some will only play dvd+r... dvd+r are the 'best' to write I have heard, due to better burnproof systems (esp in linux), tho I think it's been fixed a bit. So I burn a bit of both depending on what I'm doing... Mostly dvd+r so far, tho I just bough a 25 pack of dvd-r to use with the dvd-r player

Most newer stuff will play both, but some cheap standalone dvd recorders will only record dvd+r...

It's all a matter of trial and error at times...
 
Old 01-26-2005, 12:27 PM   #6
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Re: Re: DVD+R and DVD-R i thought they were the same thing ?

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Don't feel too bad. In my day cell's were where you recieved 3 hots and cot if you'd been naughty.
LOL

on which +/- R is better, I tried doing some research a few months ago - after reading tons of forums, usenet, hardware sites, the best I came up with is: flip a coin. seriously, for every 10 people you get 11 different opinions.

I've gone through a pack of -R Ritek media using a Lite-On 8x without a single coaster or read error so far (knock on wood) - so I guess I'll stick with -R for now.
 
Old 01-26-2005, 01:53 PM   #7
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Yeah, best thing to do is get out the manuals for all of your DVD equipment, find a common ground if you can and use that. Really it's a mess. But some DVD writers will allow you to set the booktype, bitsetting they call it. Meaning you can change a DVD+R to DVD-ROM after burning it so that almost any player will work with it.
 
Old 01-26-2005, 02:28 PM   #8
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But some DVD writers will allow you to set the booktype, bitsetting they call it. Meaning you can change a DVD+R to DVD-ROM
This is only true of the +R and +RW, not - (which has the booktype hard coded into it.) But it does increase comptability with older drives (means an old Matsushita DVD-ROM drive in the other computer can read DVD+R discs now). Also, although older drives may make no reference to +R/RW, this is normally due to the fact that they predate it, but may still read + discs (my Sanyo standalone DVD player certainly does, and makes no mention of + in the manual.)

For more information on the differences, read this: http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#4.3

To summarise that section of the FAQ, the six different formats are:

DVD-R(G) and DVD-R(A): The -Rs you buy will normally be DVD-R(G). A write once format. (DVD Forum Standard)
DVD-RW: A rewritable format (DVD Forum Standard)
DVD+R: A write once format from the RW Alliance (Sony, Philips, et all)
DVD+RW: A rewriteable format from the RW Aliiance. Unlike DVD-RW, and similiar to DVD-RAM, DVD+RW can support random writing access, but this isn't well supported.
DVD-RAM: A random access format, really only useful for data storage. Extremely poor compatibility (DVD Forum standard)
DVD+R/RW DL: The only dual layered disc available is from the + camp. Compatibility is rather udbious (bitsetting _must_ be used) and the cost per disc is rather high at the moment.

Note that the DVD format is not an ISO (International Standards Organisation, not a CD image!) format, like CD-R and -RW are, so the manufacturers are not bound to sticking to a format, hence the number of them.

Last edited by cathectic; 01-26-2005 at 02:52 PM.
 
Old 01-26-2005, 07:02 PM   #9
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Neither DVD-R and DVD+R is better. It depends on your player and what disc brands you buy. DVD+R group saids it closely resembles the DVD-ROM format, but I say that is loads of BS. You can make any DVD recordable drive support both DVD-R and DVD+R by updating its firmware. My DVD recordable drive supports DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW, and as well the CD-R and CD-RW formats. IMHO, stay away from RW discs because they can get you in a lot of problems.
 
Old 01-26-2005, 07:18 PM   #10
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I have read some suggestions (from the guys who write dvd rw tools I think) that the overburn protection is slightly better, or at least easir, with +R, tho they managed to get -R working good as well, so no big deal. I find both work.

Also I've never had any trouble with RW, what's the problem there?
 
  


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