LinuxQuestions.org
Download your favorite Linux distribution at LQ ISO.
Home Forums Tutorials Articles Register
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Hardware
User Name
Password
Linux - Hardware This forum is for Hardware issues.
Having trouble installing a piece of hardware? Want to know if that peripheral is compatible with Linux?

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 12-16-2010, 11:23 AM   #1
business_kid
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Ireland
Distribution: Slackware, Slarm64 & Android
Posts: 16,367

Rep: Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335
CPU too new?


I have this weird hardware issue. I have an old T4040 Analogue Signature Analyser for repairing electronic equipment. The manufacturer (Polar) is distinctly embarrassed when I mention they made it, and as it's from 1993, they tell me it is "obsolete" (= they don't want to know, middle finger, etc.).

I have 15 years of signatures gathered on a disk, so it is valuable to me. But cpus around the K6, or Athlon stopped running the software. I got a crash on startup. I used run it off a P120, which I recently threw out because I wasn't using it at all :-((.

As soon as that happened, all hell broke loose, and people have been ringing me saying they know I closed in 2006 but is there any chance I'd look at one last thing for them.

Never got it to go with freedos. I can zip up the package and it will load without the machine if it will work. I even have some vintage hard drives and dos-7.0 from windows 98. Has anyone an idea for what I could use now?

Last edited by business_kid; 12-20-2010 at 04:39 AM.
 
Old 12-16-2010, 11:56 AM   #2
onebuck
Moderator
 
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Central Florida 20 minutes from Disney World
Distribution: SlackwareŽ
Posts: 13,925
Blog Entries: 44

Rep: Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159
Hi,

Why not setup a VM with the necessary kernel for earlier Gnu/Linux of choice(Slackware?). This way you can manage the instrument transparently via the desired configuration(s). Since you are a Slackware user it would be no problem to get earlier version.

There's nothing wrong with older equipment as long it is still viable.

Historic GNU/Linux SlackwareŽ will be of some use.
ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/ may also provide the version you can use.

I keep some older laptops for just this reason. Got enough boxes & hardware to brew just about any system need(s). I like to experiment!

I really think Slackware 8.1 would be the choice starting point. I'm sure you could use 13.1 with a lot of kernel modification/tweaks but why.

I think the 2.4 kernel would be the way to go.
Good luck!

Last edited by onebuck; 12-16-2010 at 03:34 PM. Reason: correct word
 
Old 12-16-2010, 03:30 PM   #3
jefro
Moderator
 
Registered: Mar 2008
Posts: 21,998

Rep: Reputation: 3629Reputation: 3629Reputation: 3629Reputation: 3629Reputation: 3629Reputation: 3629Reputation: 3629Reputation: 3629Reputation: 3629Reputation: 3629Reputation: 3629
Is this like an octopus or huntron tracker?

I'd guess the thing is somehow tied to the clock. May have to work that in the mix.


Any links to the product?
 
Old 12-17-2010, 04:26 AM   #4
business_kid
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Ireland
Distribution: Slackware, Slarm64 & Android
Posts: 16,367

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335
http://polar.co.uk

It is like the huntron tracker, except better, imho.
 
Old 12-17-2010, 07:37 AM   #5
onebuck
Moderator
 
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Central Florida 20 minutes from Disney World
Distribution: SlackwareŽ
Posts: 13,925
Blog Entries: 44

Rep: Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159
Hi,

How is the instrumentation linked to the system?
Just curious!
 
Old 12-17-2010, 03:08 PM   #6
jefro
Moderator
 
Registered: Mar 2008
Posts: 21,998

Rep: Reputation: 3629Reputation: 3629Reputation: 3629Reputation: 3629Reputation: 3629Reputation: 3629Reputation: 3629Reputation: 3629Reputation: 3629Reputation: 3629Reputation: 3629
Onebuck has some good questions. A vm may work. There are some vm's that can fix the halt and maybe some isa bus timer deals.

The way it connects is vital info we'd need.



Yea, I saw a later model of the huntron that did have a complex waveform analysis and was to be used for line work. The military had on for their boards on some ships. Neat way to test boards.
 
Old 12-19-2010, 05:25 AM   #7
business_kid
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Ireland
Distribution: Slackware, Slarm64 & Android
Posts: 16,367

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335
@onebuck: A serial port. It gives a voltage limited, current limited, sine wave to inject into circuit nodes.

@Jefro: Yes, I should have provided that and I apologise. It wants the bottom 640k of memory -that's all. It's 90s software - an exe, a few .ovl files, and a specific directory structure. The pc draws a simple screen and the machine does the clever stuff, receiving commands from a pc and returning data.

VMs are good, imho for modern OSes. People rapidly lose interest when I say DOS.

I did go at this in various ways in the past. This ran on an 8088, iirc. 16 bit stuff. I think even the k6-2 said "Wait a minute - you can't do that!", and barfed on bootup. I feel I need a cpu that will comfortably emulate ancient crap. Is there any of the cheap, crappy, low spec cpus available today that suggests itself? I have a licensed install of (spit) windows 98, and that runs it on the right cpu. On the wrong cpu, we barf.

Most people want better pcs. I need a worse one :-//.
 
Old 12-19-2010, 06:54 AM   #8
onebuck
Moderator
 
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Central Florida 20 minutes from Disney World
Distribution: SlackwareŽ
Posts: 13,925
Blog Entries: 44

Rep: Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159Reputation: 3159
Hi,

Picture is a little clear now.

That is a older piece of equipment. Not saying that it's bad but your best bet is to see if you could get a older PC to work with this piece of instrumentation.
So you don't need a heartbeat for the device? What about some older single board embeds?

You could try DOSBox DOS Emulator but the '.exe' may just barf on you.

Good Luck!
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 12-20-2010, 04:38 AM   #9
business_kid
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Ireland
Distribution: Slackware, Slarm64 & Android
Posts: 16,367

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335Reputation: 2335
So, the ultimate answer to the ultimate question, in this case of early 90s dos software, i.e.
Quote:
Is there any of the cheap, crappy, low spec cpus available today that suggests itself?
Is. . . B]NO![[/B]

I'll have to try resurrecting a dinosaur. A high degree of replication is required, because signatures under whatever system I'm running are going to be compared with ones stored in DOS.

Thanks to all who replied and offered their wisdom free gratis.

Last edited by business_kid; 12-20-2010 at 04:39 AM.
 
  


Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
AMD CPU Generating Way More System Load Than Intel Xeon CPU? kresyzig Programming 1 10-11-2010 09:35 AM
Cpu fan stuck to the cpu, how do I get the cpu out? abefroman Linux - Hardware 16 09-04-2009 12:47 AM
cpu frequency scaling with Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5200 @ 2.50GHz tramni1980 Slackware 5 08-16-2009 08:29 AM
CPU Overheat Warning when opening terminal (CPU is not overheating) Virtuality Linux - Newbie 4 05-30-2007 04:10 AM
please help guys, wrong cpu speed shown with a regular non-mobile cpu !! : ( maku Linux - Hardware 1 01-02-2005 02:03 PM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Hardware

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:33 AM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration