can't boot with new pci nvidia video card...onboard intel works OK
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can't boot with new pci nvidia video card...onboard intel works OK
Hello. I am adding a new PCI Nvidia GeForce 6200 video card to my desktop computer. I was previously using the onboard Intel video adapter. The problem is that boot up hangs shortly into the boot process when I try to boot with the new video card. If I switch back to the onboard video in the system BIOS, everything boots fine.
The video card has VGA and DVI outputs. I have the onboard video connected to the VGA on the monitor. I have the Nvidia card connected to the DVI on the monitor. When I choose "Onboard" as the primary video in the BIOS, everything boots up fine. When I choose "AUTO" for the primary video, the screen goes blank, then I see the white/light blue/dark blue bar at the bottom (Fedora 11 startup) for a split second and then I am left with a cursor blinking in the upper left corner.
I've tried hitting Grub and editing the kernel line. I removed the "rhgb quiet" part and replaced with "3" to boot up in run level 3, but it still hangs before it can finish loading. It seems to stop right before loading kernel modules, but I can't be sure.
Google searching has led me to the option of blacklisting the onboard video. Several posts report that blacklisting "intel_agp" and "agpgart" stop the system from loading the modules for the onboard video, but this didn't work for me.
I also tried installing the Nvidia drivers from their site. Didn't make a difference.
Can someone please give me some more ideas to try? Thank you.
- I am not sure having both VGA and DVI connected to the monitor at once is a good idea. Does the monitor have some sort of "Input select" to choose which to use. Try connecting the Nvidia card with a VGA cable. Does EDID (see wikipedia) work over a DVI cable? Maybe not. In which case xorg cannot probe your monitor for its specs.
- Does adding vga=normal to your kernel boot line help at all ?
- You installed the NVIDIA drivers but did you you update your xorg.conf ?
- Please post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (In CODE tags please [ Quick reply -> "Go advanced", -> it's the # icon])
Finally, what happens if you disable on-board video driver, connect the nvidia card with VGA cable and boot from a live CD like knoppix or one of the earlier 'buntus (8.04 comes to mind). Does the NVIDIA card work (without the NVIDIA drivers, just the kernel one) ?
I ran into the same situation when I switched to a new LCD monitor. Mine did not like having both a VGA and a DVI connection to the same machine. Once I unplugged the VGA the DVI worked fine. Oddly enough it will work with both VGA and DVI connected simultaneously as long as they are from two different machines.
You could test the system by downloading and booting a live-cd of PCLinuxOS which has an Nvidia driver already configured, but there may well be no difference in what happens.
Connecting both outputs to the same screen is likely to confuse X, since the output connections are also input connections when linux configures the screen, and two is one too many.
Do you have the latest BIOS?
Working with the modules for the graphics chips seems like the right approach. Are you sure you are blocking the right on-board modules? You can run "lsmod" with the on-board chip activated to see what is loaded.
When the Nvidia card is installed, can you force the loading of an "nv" module at the beginning of the linux boot? Something has to be presented as a module if the graphics device is to be activated.
There may be no solution to this problem if the BIOS only has an "Auto" setting that looks for a Windows driver, and on not finding it, simply boots nothing.
Last edited by thorkelljarl; 11-06-2009 at 01:50 PM.
Well...I expected as much, but the Fedora 11 Live CD didn't work...it just hangs right after it starts...
I just downloaded Knoppix 6.0.1 Live. I am going to burn the ISO and try booting with it. I have higher hopes for this one since it is supposed to have the nvidia driver setup, right?
Also, I think that blocking the onboard modules is the right way to go, but honestly I'm not sure what modules to block (see previously posted lsmod output).
Thanks for all the help. The 64MB onboard is functional, but I can't do stuff like watch youtube, play movie files in totem, play games via emulators, etc. I'm hoping the 256MB nvidia card improves my system enough to do those things.
My monitor does have an input select on it to change between VGA, DVI and HDMI. The monitor automatically switches to the input that has signal. When an input has no signal, it moves to the next input. I have dropped the DVI cable out of the equation. I have tried using the VGA cable connected to the nvidia card. Still nothing.
The other thing I notice is that in the BIOS, the option regarding video is called "Primary Video" and the only two options are "Onboard" or "AUTO." There is no option to disable.
The Knoppix Live CD did not work either. Boot process hangs after a few seconds.
I've been using Linux (in one flavor or another) since 1997. I know that it is just a matter of figuring out exactly what Linux wants in order for the system to do what I want.
If KNOPPIX started to load, a solution should be possible.
Try to boot a live-cd linux with the on board chip activated and no Nvidia card. Then run the command "lsmod" to see what modules are loaded. They are those you wish to block.
Have you tried a KNOPPIX live-cd trying with the BIOS setting at "Auto", no on-board, and a cheatcode to force the "vesa" or "nv" module? KNOPPIX 5.1.1 has the most cheatcodes and is more contemporary with the hardware.
Thanks for all the helpful replies. It turns out that all I needed to do was add 'agp=off' to the kernel line in grub. The system came up just fine once I added that. I put the 'agp=off' in the /etc/grub.conf file so it will no load the agp every time I boot.
I'm using the DVI cable too. Everything looks a bit more crisp with the DVI cable.
Thanks to all previous posters that helped me getting the nVidia card going! I now have another issue with the card. The graphics are slow to render. This is especially true in video playback. Nautilus is slow to render when changing directories, scrolling in Firefox is choppy, YouTube videos are sometimes choppy, and video playback of HD videos in Totem is choppy.
I'm not looking to do 3D gaming with this card, but the above mentioned items should have no problem with a 256MB graphics card. The performance I am getting is only slightly better than the previous 64MB integrated Intel adapter.
My question is are there optimizations or settings that I need to edit in order to get this card working smoothly? The drivers I installed are the ones from the nVidia site: