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Old 04-13-2002, 10:53 PM   #1
TheDreamX
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Exclamation XFree86 fatal error (Radeon 8500)


I'm a newbie to the open source world of Linux. I have had a copy of Mandarke 8.1 since it came out dual booted with Windows XP Pro. I had tried to update my XFree86 to 4.1 then 4.2 more recently but I always got error during instalation. I finally got it to install after reading a little bit, lol. Now I get the following...

Fatal error: no screens found

Plus, during instalation, XFree did not have my video card, but the site said it supported it.

Computer Specs:
Pentium 4 1.80 GHz
512 MB RDRAM
SB Live! 5.1
***ATI Radeon 8500***

If anyone can tell me what to do (in lamen's terms) it would be greatly appreciated.
 
Old 04-13-2002, 11:03 PM   #2
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Have you tried running:

xf86config

type that at the console (command prompt)

If that doesn't work copy and paste the contents of: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
 
Old 04-13-2002, 11:24 PM   #3
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Did you read this page on ATI's site? I don't know if it will help, but if you haven't been there...
 
Old 04-14-2002, 06:58 AM   #4
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I have tried a number of different options under xf86config that sounded reasonable and a nuber more that were more failsafe that I thought would work. However, no matter what I did, I got the same error from above post. Ans yes, I did check out ATI's site. It talks about them not directly supporting Linux, but they refer you to the DRI and XFree86 sites.

Here is my XF86Config-4 file in its entirety:

# File generated by XFdrake.
# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************
Section "Files"

RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.

FontPath "unix/:-1"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is
# received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging
#NoTrapSignals

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><BS> server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.
#DontZap

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> mode switching
# sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events.
#DontZoom

# This allows the server to start up even if the
# mouse device can't be opened/initialised.
AllowMouseOpenFail

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Input devices
# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Keyboard section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "Keyboard"
Option "AutoRepeat" "250 30"

Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Pointer section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"

# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice

# Option "ChordMiddle"

EndSection



Section "Module"

# This loads the DBE extension module.

Load "dbe"


# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.

SubSection "extmod"
#Option "omit xfree86-dga"
EndSubSection

# This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules

Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of monitor sections may be present

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Delta DB-1765"
VendorName "Delta"
ModelName "Unknown"


# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
HorizSync 30-65


# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
VertRefresh 50-100


# This is a set of extended mode timings typically used for laptop,
# TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
# These are available along with standard mode timings.

# Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)?
# 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1024x480" 65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -hsync -vsync

# 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630
# 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616


EndSection



# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************

Section "Device"
Identifier "Generic VGA"
Driver "vga"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier ""
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown"
Driver ""
# VideoRam 65536
# Clock lines


# Uncomment following option if you see a big white block
# instead of the cursor!
# Option "sw_cursor"

Option "DPMS" "on"
EndSection



# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************


Section "Screen"
Identifier "screen1"
Device ""
Monitor "Delta DB-1765"
DefaultColorDepth 16
Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection


Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "layout1"
Screen "screen1"

InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"

InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
 
Old 04-14-2002, 09:35 PM   #5
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Try it with the following,
Code:
---<snip>---
 # ********************************************************************** 
# Graphics device section 
# ********************************************************************** 

 Section "Device" 
Identifier "Generic VGA" 
Driver "vga" 
EndSection 

 Section "Device" 
Identifier "Raedon"      #this must be the same as in the screen section
VendorName "Unknown" 
BoardName "Unknown" 
Driver "ati"                     #this is the driver that XFree86 recomend for raedon chips
# VideoRam 65536 
# Clock lines 

 
# Uncomment following option if you see a big white block 
# instead of the cursor! 
# Option "sw_cursor" 

 Option "DPMS" "on" 
EndSection 

 

 # ********************************************************************** 
# Screen sections 
# ********************************************************************** 

 
Section "Screen" 
Identifier "screen1" 
Device "Raedon"           #same as in graphics device section
Monitor "Delta DB-1765" 
DefaultColorDepth 16 
Subsection "Display" 
Depth 8 
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" 
ViewPort 0 0 
EndSubsection 
Subsection "Display" 
Depth 15 
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" 
ViewPort 0 0 
EndSubsection 
Subsection "Display" 
Depth 16 
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" 
ViewPort 0 0 
EndSubsection 
EndSection
 
Old 04-14-2002, 10:21 PM   #6
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Thanks for the try, but X still runs slow as molasses (same as always). Reinstalled Mandrake 8.1 and left XFree86 4.1 alone on it. Anyone got any suggestions on how I can make Linux work better (trails when windows move, etc).
 
Old 04-15-2002, 04:34 AM   #7
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yah linux plus gui = crap

something not to many linux zealots mention. I love linux for my firewall and for my webserver command line only. But linux is just as buggy and crash prone with gnome or kde as windows ever was and win2k as a desktop owns it.

thx
 
Old 04-30-2002, 10:50 PM   #8
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You might also try running "Xf86 -Configure" instead of using the old style configuration utils for xf86. The documentation on xf86.org recommends using this as it is better able to detect chipsets and assign drivers, particularly for newer cards and ATI cards. (You might need to check the syntax, but a search for the command should be fruitful.)


Hope this is helpful.


DarkKnight
 
Old 04-30-2002, 10:52 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally posted by pack
But linux is just as buggy and crash prone with gnome or kde as windows ever was and win2k as a desktop owns it.

thx
that is one reason i use any other desktop or windowmanager instead of kde or gnome..
 
Old 05-08-2002, 06:29 AM   #10
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Patient has its rewards. I've gone through what you have described when I've started to setup my PC with 'ATI Radeon 7500'. But it's work the effort and patients.

First, installing the XFree86 4.2 is not as easy as I would like it to. as I'm a newbie too, myself. I would recommend you to download the binaries (XFree86 4.2 Binaries) instead of the normal rpm files. This binaries comes with pretty good README and install guide.

Second, follow the "install" file procedure and you will get there.

Third, then try x86cfg / x86configurator ... can't really remember the actual name.

Hope this helps.

vT
 
Old 05-08-2002, 12:49 PM   #11
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I'm facing the same problem with ATI Radeon All in Wonder 7500.

THAMV!

Could U please, describe it in detail, how U did it, since U too had issues with ati all in wonder 7500.

I have Mandrake 8.2 with following features.

kernel 2.4.18
XFree86 4.2
glibc 2.2.4
Window Maker 0.8
apache 1.3.23
evolution 1.01
kde 2.2.2
galeon 1.0
mozilla 0.9.8

I have P4b Motherboard with Intel Pentium IV scoket 478 Norwood with 628 MB of SDRAM.

Linux Installed successfully.
But, the GUI Interface did not start at all.

Please help.

Last edited by jituoracle; 05-08-2002 at 12:56 PM.
 
Old 05-08-2002, 08:28 PM   #12
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hi jituoracle,

Try editing your '/etc/X11/XF86Config-4' file, then start your X-server by `startx`. Following is my XF86Config-4: -

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "extmod"
Load "dbe"
Load "dri"
Load "glx"
Load "record"
Load "pex5"
Load "xtrap"
Load "xie"
Load "speedo"
Load "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "keyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Buttons" "5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
#DisplaySize 310 230 # mm
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "PHL"
ModelName "PHILIPS 107T"
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>]
#Option "SWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "Dac6Bit" # [<bool>]
#Option "Dac8Bit" # [<bool>]
#Option "ForcePCIMode" # [<bool>]
#Option "CPPIOMode" # [<bool>]
#Option "CPusecTimeout" # <i>
#Option "AGPMode" # <i>
#Option "AGPSize" # <i>
#Option "RingSize" # <i>
#Option "BufferSize" # <i>
#Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [<bool>]
#Option "CrtScreen" # [<bool>]
#Option "PanelSize" # [<str>]
#Option "UseFBDev" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "ati"
VendorName "ATI"
BoardName "Radeon 7500 QW"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "MONITOR0"
DefaultDepth 16
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Hope this will do you good.

vT

Last edited by thamv; 05-08-2002 at 08:33 PM.
 
Old 05-16-2002, 07:15 AM   #13
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Thanks Thamv,

I tried your idea and settings. But it did not work fo rme. I purchased another DIplay Card with PCI. So now my PC is having both the Diplay cards. ATI All in Wonder Radeon 7500 in AGP slot and Xtasy GeForce2 Nvidia card in PCI slot.

When I go for Linux, I change my Bios setting to look for Xtasy card. otherwise, I continue with AGP card. Its is tough. May be down the road, Linux people come up with more drivers which recognize the All in Wonder by default and such probloems don't happen.

Thanks once again for Ur help. It did not work, but I'm glad that we tried.

I will still continue to figure out (later).
 
  


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