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Old 01-09-2005, 12:55 PM   #1
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Write How to install for gentoo linux 2004.2 for 15 USD


Can someone write me a quick and easy 'How to install Gentoo Linux 2004.2' text file? I went to the official site and I don't understand it very well so if someone can write me what to type and what to click to install Gentoo linux 2004.2 I will play you 15 USD through payapl. (Does sound like a good/wierd deal.. :P)

If anyone wants to write the short quick and simple how to install gentoo linux 2004.2, here is an example how it should look. (I want this very basic.)

-----------------------------------------------------------------
- (example)
- Put in CD
- Restart PC
- Once loaded click 'enter' to boot.
- then .......
- .....
- .....
- Your done, now you can start using gento linux.
----------------------------------------------------------------

See very easy.! I

I downloaded the Universal CD x86. So All the packages should be on it and such. Also I want this on my second partition because I have WIndows on my first partition and on the other I'm using fedora core 3 linux. I just want to overwrite gentoo linux over fc3.

Once your done just PM me.
 
Old 01-09-2005, 02:26 PM   #2
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The gentoo handbook contains detailed information that you can literally "cut and paste" to do your installation, and includes reasonably explanation on 'why' you are running a particular command....I really don't see any point in duplicating this effort.

If you have problems with a particular section of the handbook then just explain it, and we can help you ...for free, rather than for 15 bucks.
 
Old 01-09-2005, 03:28 PM   #3
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Way to long and I get lost at some parts I should do... It would be better if someone could simply wire me out the things I should do.. 20?
 
Old 01-09-2005, 03:33 PM   #4
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Personally I think the gentoo handbook should be printed and sold with the profits going to the gentoo devs.
 
Old 01-09-2005, 05:16 PM   #5
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Way to long and I get lost at some parts I should do
If you find the handbook "way to long" then I don't think you will find much joy in running gentoo. Perhaps just stick with fedora for now. Reasons:

1. If you cannot invest the time to read the book because it is too long then how will you deal with a 12-48 hour install (depending on hardware)?

2. You state that you get lost at some parts in the book, yet gentoo requires at least a bit of know-how on the CLI. The default gentoo install leaves you booting into a system with only a CLI prompt. No X. No fancy GUI configuration tools. No GUI package manager. Are you prepared to deal with this?

3. Gentoo is not a distro for noobs. You need to read and research what you are doing. Granted there is lots of help (wiki, forums, mailing lists), but if you find the handbook too long then you will find everything else you need to read to get even the simplest of X desktops up and running terribly time-consuming and difficult as well.

4. Rewriting the handbook for *your* specific needs cannot be done unless you state what your specific needs are. Gentoo is about choice. If you have no opinion on what is installed then stay with fedora. Why do you want to run gentoo anyway, if not to take advantage of these choices?

5. If you can't be bothered to read the handbook, no one will bother to help you if you ever do get it installed. No one will help you until you first attempt to help yourself. Gentoo is about self-reliance and self-education. As soon as you post a question like "how do I do foo" you will be told to RTFM, because almost certainly the answer is there.

I am not trying to flame you here, I am just pointing out the way things are. Don't use Gentoo unlessd you are prepared to educate yourself, and from your posts here it is evident that you are not....
 
Old 01-09-2005, 05:17 PM   #6
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if someone agrees to do it, and i suspect they will..theyll prbbly PM u
id be great if ud share it with all of us here on LQ
or the person that did the write-up should post it

Edit:
Great points there bulliver, i also wanted to install gentoo, but read tru the manual and some threads and decided im not ready yet + my cpu couldn't handle 20 hours of working (a p4 in a laptop talk about overheating)
the price was raised to 20 LOL
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Way to long and I get lost at some parts I should do... It would be better if someone could simply wire me out the things I should do.. 20?

Last edited by rksprst; 01-09-2005 at 05:26 PM.
 
Old 01-09-2005, 05:24 PM   #7
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Originally posted by rksprst
if someone agrees to do it, and i suspect they will..theyll prbbly PM u
id be great if ud share it with all of us here on LQ
or the person that did the write-up should post it
Exactly. Rather than request a personal copy of a short version of the book (it'd be better, for you, if you did it yourself - try the install a few times, write down what works and what doesn't and then you have your documentation) why don't you tell us what problems you are having and then we can try to help.

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Originally posted by Bulliver
5. If you can't be bothered to read the handbook, no one will bother to help you if you ever do get it installed. No one will help you until you first attempt to help yourself. Gentoo is about self-reliance and self-education. As soon as you post a question like "how do I do foo" you will be told to RTFM, because almost certainly the answer is there.
He's right, you know. About this and about his other points. The Gentoo install is about making various choices during the install - like, do you compile for KDE support or not, do you compile to support particular hardware or not - and the whole thing could take 1 - 3 days depending on your choices and your hardware.

If you want a stripped down distro, try Slackware or Vector Linux and put Gentoo on the back burner until you are more sure of your knowledge.

And finally, let's not use LQ as a place to offer money for services. That sort of thing is just not done here.
 
Old 01-09-2005, 05:36 PM   #8
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Great points there bulliver, i also wanted to install gentoo, but read tru the manual and some threads and decided im not ready yet + my cpu couldn't handle 20 hours of working (a p4 in a laptop talk about overheating)
I am really not trying to scare people away from gentoo... it is not terribly difficult to install if you follow the handbook. Gentoo does however, require a willingness to learn.
 
Old 01-09-2005, 05:48 PM   #9
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Originally posted by bulliver
I am really not trying to scare people away from gentoo... it is not terribly difficult to install if you follow the handbook. Gentoo does however, require a willingness to learn.
i was just pointing out that for me, personally, i found it to be hard but manegable, but the fact that my processor will be working for at least 20 hours...as opposed to leaving the pc on, where the processor does nothing...i just don't want to do that on a p4 laptop... im sure that the pc will shut down(to protect the cpu, a failsafe) because of overheating after 3 hours
i compiled the kernel and my fan was going very high during that time..even though it was only 30 minutes
 
Old 01-09-2005, 07:11 PM   #10
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Have you actually experienced such shutdowns?
If your cpu overheats to the point that it shuts the system down something is not quite right. I had a laptop with PIV and experienced shutdowns due to cooling problems: dust. Taking the ol' 1200 Watt vacuum cleaner to the air intake sure cleared things up (there are probably safer/better ways to clean a laptop though).
If you experience the same and it's not related to something else, then it may be because dust is accumulating.
Just a thought
 
Old 01-09-2005, 07:24 PM   #11
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this happened on a desktop i had, and also a friends laptop, but not on this laptop
a unique thing about my laptop is that i have a heat shield where the ports are, i dont see a fan there but i feel the air
but i do have a fan underneath the computer, im pretty sure that its for the cpu
im gonna try ur suggestion about the dust, which btw i do see i have thanks!
 
Old 01-09-2005, 09:08 PM   #12
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Originally posted by bulliver
If you find the handbook "way to long" then I don't think you will find much joy in running gentoo. Perhaps just stick with fedora for now. Reasons:

1. If you cannot invest the time to read the book because it is too long then how will you deal with a 12-48 hour install (depending on hardware)?

2. You state that you get lost at some parts in the book, yet gentoo requires at least a bit of know-how on the CLI. The default gentoo install leaves you booting into a system with only a CLI prompt. No X. No fancy GUI configuration tools. No GUI package manager. Are you prepared to deal with this?

3. Gentoo is not a distro for noobs. You need to read and research what you are doing. Granted there is lots of help (wiki, forums, mailing lists), but if you find the handbook too long then you will find everything else you need to read to get even the simplest of X desktops up and running terribly time-consuming and difficult as well.

4. Rewriting the handbook for *your* specific needs cannot be done unless you state what your specific needs are. Gentoo is about choice. If you have no opinion on what is installed then stay with fedora. Why do you want to run gentoo anyway, if not to take advantage of these choices?

5. If you can't be bothered to read the handbook, no one will bother to help you if you ever do get it installed. No one will help you until you first attempt to help yourself. Gentoo is about self-reliance and self-education. As soon as you post a question like "how do I do foo" you will be told to RTFM, because almost certainly the answer is there.

I am not trying to flame you here, I am just pointing out the way things are. Don't use Gentoo unlessd you are prepared to educate yourself, and from your posts here it is evident that you are not....
I have used gentoo before but now that i got a new laptop I want to install it onto it. The problem is I never installed it and that is a pain..
 
Old 01-11-2005, 05:15 AM   #13
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Originally posted by JunctaJuvant
Taking the ol' 1200 Watt vacuum cleaner to the air intake sure cleared things up (there are probably safer/better ways to clean a laptop though).
THANKS SOO MUCH!!! i unscrewed the bottom of the laptop, and i had about 2 inches of dust blocking the heatshield,, no air could exit the laptop...i took all the dust out and the fan is very very quiet now..lol at first i thought i broke it by taking unscrewing everything, but no thats how its supposed to work with no dust
 
Old 01-11-2005, 01:29 PM   #14
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Doesn't a gentoo instal vary by hardware too? Other than the specific programs you want compiled in. I have never installed gentoo and prolly never will, but wouldn't this make it next to impossible to do FOR someones computer, and rather useless for someone elses computer?
 
Old 01-11-2005, 01:40 PM   #15
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Doesn't a gentoo instal vary by hardware too? Other than the specific programs you want compiled in. I have never installed gentoo and prolly never will, but wouldn't this make it next to impossible to do FOR someones computer, and rather useless for someone elses computer?
Exactly. There are just way to many variables to rewrite the book for this guy. If he had just mentioned which parts of the book were giving him trouble like I asked in my first post...he would have gentoo installed by now. Oh well.
 
  


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