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Old 03-09-2009, 07:33 AM   #1
michaa808
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why is linux not better then windows in my pc ?:P


i have a laptop (gigabyte w468n)that runs at the moment vista 64 ultimate
and it runs smooth with all effects on
and it rarely crashes if at all
still i would like to run a linux distro
i have tried many ubuntu .. kubuntu .. mandriva
my last was opensuse 11.1 x86_64 dvd
ive been
realy patient and tryed over and over configuring basic things so that everything will run smoothly but still its not!!
simple things like highlighting an option that the mouse is over is getting stuck move file from one desktop to another is not ... witch in mandriva and ubuntu and kubuntu did ...
and it got stuck a few times .. and finaly the volume is low
this is getting frustrating .. im trying to get a linux distro to use some terminal functions but i found that if it can give me the same windows experience and better that what the hell ..
but its not working ... im almost giving up on suse cuz its giving me less than other distros did .. still i havent found one that gives me more than what my windows does ..
any advise will help :P feel free to just say what comes on your mind :P
thnx


my pc specs:
Intel ®Core ™2 Duo T9500 2.5gh
NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS 256MB
4 gb RAM
.... bla bla :P
thnx again
 
Old 03-09-2009, 07:46 AM   #2
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True i can understand your difficulty with linux, Why dont to search for better distribution which can support your hardware. Have you tried fedora 10. And I recommend before installing any distribution try once with live-cd option, found it can meet requirements then only you install that.
And if you dont want to try with that also you can try at click2try.com where you can test the application from your browser itself without installing or rebooting your machine.
 
Old 03-09-2009, 07:46 AM   #3
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Well, we have to compete against windows ultimate so it will be hard but...

I'd go back to Kubuntu for ease of use although anyone using another distro might flame me for saying so

Stay on 32bit as it's been well tested for years and is stable.

Remember that Linux will require (like any other OS) a learning curve. You can't switch from Windows to Linux and hope to understand it all.

You'll need a good dose of patience but it will pay off in the end.

Best of luck.
 
Old 03-09-2009, 07:50 AM   #4
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I don't know how long you've been trying Linux, but you've only been with us 5 days---Please don't give up yet!!

First, if you want something just like Windows, then I would suggest that you use------------Windows!!

Linux is very different than Windows, and can take some getting used to. It is more powerful, more flexible, and I believe there is now actually a broader range of SW available. And, of course, it's all free. To be sure, there are some glitches---and there are things that don't seem quite right only because the user is used to Windows.

I can't tell which of the distros (versions) you have actually installed. If you have only run them from the CD or DVD, then you are not seeing the "real Linux". (Running from live CD or DVD is, among other things, very slow.)

Finally, take it one step at a time. Pick any one of the following, install it to your hard drive, and stay with it for awhile:
Ubuntu
OpenSUSE
Mint
Fedora
Mandriva
 
Old 03-09-2009, 07:59 AM   #5
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why is linux not better then windows in my pc ?:P
it is. you just don't see it yet )
 
Old 03-09-2009, 09:17 AM   #6
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feel free to just say what comes on your mind :P
thnx
No, I'd better not. The Mods would close the thread.
 
Old 03-09-2009, 09:31 AM   #7
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@michaa8O8: The specs on your machine indicate that you shouldn't have any difficulty operating Linux on it. Whatever the problem is, there may be an incompatibility, or a problem with some driver related to your hardware. Also, once you've installed Linux on your machine, you want to make sure to run any updates as they could fix the issue.


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Well, we have to compete against windows ultimate so it will be hard but...
Is it safe to assume this is a joke?

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No, I'd better not. The Mods would close the thread.
Dern straight, wacko!
 
Old 03-09-2009, 01:33 PM   #8
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well if i wanted to reply everyone that would take a very long reply so ill make it faster
thnx all, dont worry im not giving up that was kinda of a joke
im just frustrated ive spent more than 5 days but i keep leaving it but now ive made my mind up and im not stoping until i get it up and running the way it should run!!
the problem isnt me getting use to the enviroment but its me trying to solve the minor issues that come up
witch all together make a big issue/problem..
ill continue trying... and if something comes up ill ask :P
thnx again
 
Old 03-09-2009, 02:27 PM   #9
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any advise will help :P feel free to just say what comes on your mind :P
thnx
Look, to stop getting frustrated you'll need to use any distribution for at least a month (so you'll get used to it and will learn your way around) and put considerable effort in trying understanding it. This applies to any operating system, windows included.
 
Old 03-09-2009, 05:52 PM   #10
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@ michaa808

I suggest using linux via a virtual machine. This is much faster than a live CD/DVD. Popular VMs are vmware server and virtualbox. Another option is to use wubi. Wubi allows you to install and uninstall ubuntu or its derivatives like any other windows application. And lastly, you can try linux via a USB image. You can use unetbootin, a program that will take an iso image and write it to a USB flash drive, making it into a bootable linux distro.

Fedora and ubuntu works well in laptops as mention above. By the way, if you are still having trouble configuring your hardware in native linux, run linux using wubi or use a virtual machine. Both will take your existing hardware and use it in its virtual environment.

Last edited by dv502; 03-09-2009 at 06:56 PM.
 
Old 03-10-2009, 02:20 AM   #11
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Is it safe to assume this is a joke?
Sarcasm, yes.
 
Old 03-10-2009, 04:13 AM   #12
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i have tried many ubuntu .. kubuntu .. mandriva
my last was opensuse 11.1 x86_64 dvd
SuSE comes with quite a choice of UIs, so it would be nice to know which one(s) you are using. As of the time of release, I would say the KDE 4 that they ship isn't really ready for serious use for someone who isn't prepared to put up with a few teething problems to be on the bleeding edge.

So, if you want to continue with kde 4 there would be a case for grabbing a newer copy from the repositories, which will probably be a bit less unfinished tan the one that you have.

As far as UIs are concerned, Windows refugees are often happier with Kde (kde 3.5) rather than Gnome, but they are both 'heavyweights'. Something like XFCE is simpler and faster.

OTOH, you can waste lots of time configuring KDE to work just as you want, if that's your favourite waste of time...

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simple things like highlighting an option that the mouse is over is getting stuck move file from one desktop to another is not ... witch in mandriva and ubuntu and kubuntu did ...
Please explain this again; I have no idea what you are saying is actually wrong.

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.. and finaly the volume is low
Turn the volume up then. alsamixer at the command line should give you a collection of faders to adjust the sound.

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my pc specs:
Intel ®Core ™2 Duo T9500 2.5gh
NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS 256MB
4 gb RAM
.... bla bla :P
thnx again
I suspect that the nVidia part is part of the problem; there are opensource drivers and proprietary (closed but free) ones and some people find that one works for them where the other doesn't. In fact some people find one version of the proprietary driver is better than an other, but as nVidia isn't something that I have experience with, I'm afraid you'll have to ask others for advice.

In part, this seems to be a function of whether you enable all of the 'whizz-bang, eye candy' effects on the desktop, so there is an interaction with whether you are addicted to wobbly windows and bizarre transitions.

With 4G of ram, the standard 32 bit kernel will probably waste a bit of it (which isn't necessarily a big problem); the 32 bit pae kernel will use it all (at the expense of a bit of underlying inelegance) as will 64 bit.

BTW, I am unclear whether the larger part of this problem would be considered 'cured' if it did the same things, but faster and with better responsiveness.

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any advise will help :P feel free to just say what comes on your mind :P
thnx
My first, unharitable, thought was that if this was better presented, I would have a better shot at helping.
 
Old 03-10-2009, 07:59 AM   #13
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If you pick Mandriva, take the "One" version, not the "free". This one includes the proprietary drivers you need and it should work out of the box like you want.
 
Old 03-10-2009, 08:27 AM   #14
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If you pick Mandriva, take the "One" version, not the "free". This one includes the proprietary drivers you need and it should work out of the box like you want.
well ive tryed that and yes it did work and i was pleased from the simplicity that everything did realy work "out of the box"
still its a 32 bit version and im looking for a 64 bit version
and so i began to look for another distro cuz ive read that the free version lacks all the advantages that the one has!!


im currecntly downloading mint and fedora
ive heard that fedora has a very hard way to setup the nvidia driver .. witch is problem ..
will mint help ... or the fedora 64 dvd ??

im not looking for the easiest way
im willing to compile and read some forum articles to make everything working
but still .. i find it weird that some distro work better than others
and thats why im continuing to download other distros and not sticking with one .....
i still didnt work on mint and fedora .. when i will .. and if ill get into a rough spot ill post new thread
thnx for all
 
Old 03-10-2009, 08:56 AM   #15
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I say try Ultimate Edition 1.9-based on Ubuntu 8.04 but loaded with alot of stuff!
( http://ultimateedition.info/ultimate-edition-19/ )
It probably has everything you need!
 
  


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