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Old 02-16-2009, 03:12 PM   #1
makrophage
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Unhappy Why freezes Ubuntu 8.10 every time after login? (1 month ubuntu worked fine)


Hi!

Guys i need your help:

I have a 64-bit system and approx 1 month ago i installed Ubuntu 8.10 on my second hdd (on my first i have Vista)
I had to use the alternate 64 installer because for some unknown reason the live CD always froze when it was loading Ubuntu.

Ok i installed it and all worked except my 108MB g+ USB wireless lan so i used my cable ethernet connection. All was fine for approx 3 weeks i installed various programms w/o any probs.
Then i ordered a new "old" 54MB wireless lan stick which i read should work "out of the box with ubuntu" Meanwhile (approx 1 week) i did not use ubuntu, did my work in my dualboot Vista.

The i got the stick, plugged it in and afte logging in approx 5 secs my whole pc froze, also my mouse pointer.
So i was clueless and tried the recovery mode (xserver, hdd check) and started with different kenrels..nothing.
Last i started the alternate cd and choose repair an damaged system until i came to the point, install a shell..i did it, restarted and it worked again for exactly 1 day....(my new usb wlan worked w/o problems and i did several reboots cuz of updates,no problem)

Next day i turned on my pc and again ubuntu froze after login...so i did the above steps again but this time it did not help at all, rebootet and tried it approx 20-30 times argh.

Ok so i was fed up and reinstalled ubuntu again and ERASED my ubuntu hdd, made new partitions-->so a fresh new clean install--> after the installation i logged in 1st time and AGAIN the same problem!!!
I have NO idea what to do next...why did ubuntu work in first time and then suddelny stopped working? did not change anyt hardware except the new usb wlan (and yes i did plug it out and restarted, no help)

And i cannot even log in with failsave mode, only login is possible with the failsaive terminal, so command line is possible.

Pls if u have any idea what i could do tell me.

My specs:
Intel Core Quad 2 Q6600 @ 2,4GHz (64 bit)
MSI P35 Neo2-FIR
8 GB Ram Kingston 800MHz DDR2
Nvidia GeoForce 8800 GTS 512
Western digital caviar 500 GB S-ATA x2(For Vista&Ubuntu)
Samsung DVDRW 20 S-ATA
 
Old 02-16-2009, 03:44 PM   #2
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Hi!

Guys i need your help:

I have a 64-bit system and approx 1 month ago i installed Ubuntu 8.10 on my second hdd (on my first i have Vista)
I had to use the alternate 64 installer because for some unknown reason the live CD always froze when it was loading Ubuntu.

Ok i installed it and all worked except my 108MB g+ USB wireless lan so i used my cable ethernet connection. All was fine for approx 3 weeks i installed various programms w/o any probs.
Then i ordered a new "old" 54MB wireless lan stick which i read should work "out of the box with ubuntu" Meanwhile (approx 1 week) i did not use ubuntu, did my work in my dualboot Vista.

The i got the stick, plugged it in and afte logging in approx 5 secs my whole pc froze, also my mouse pointer.
So i was clueless and tried the recovery mode (xserver, hdd check) and started with different kenrels..nothing.
Last i started the alternate cd and choose repair an damaged system until i came to the point, install a shell..i did it, restarted and it worked again for exactly 1 day....(my new usb wlan worked w/o problems and i did several reboots cuz of updates,no problem)

Next day i turned on my pc and again ubuntu froze after login...so i did the above steps again but this time it did not help at all, rebootet and tried it approx 20-30 times argh.

Ok so i was fed up and reinstalled ubuntu again and ERASED my ubuntu hdd, made new partitions-->so a fresh new clean install--> after the installation i logged in 1st time and AGAIN the same problem!!!
I have NO idea what to do next...why did ubuntu work in first time and then suddelny stopped working? did not change anyt hardware except the new usb wlan (and yes i did plug it out and restarted, no help)

And i cannot even log in with failsave mode, only login is possible with the failsaive terminal, so command line is possible.

Pls if u have any idea what i could do tell me.

My specs:
Intel Core Quad 2 Q6600 @ 2,4GHz (64 bit)
MSI P35 Neo2-FIR
8 GB Ram Kingston 800MHz DDR2
Nvidia GeoForce 8800 GTS 512
Western digital caviar 500 GB S-ATA x2(For Vista&Ubuntu)
Samsung DVDRW 20 S-ATA
Hi. I'm not a deep technical expert on the inner workings of Ubuntu, but I highly doubt that a wireless LAN stick would destroy your Ubuntu installation, and make it impossible for Ubuntu to ever be re-installed. I suspect that something else went wrong that just happened to occur around the same time as you were playing with your new wireless LAN stick.

But if you want to be more certain: Do you have another computer you could use to test this? You could install Ubuntu on that, try it out with the LAN stick, and see what happens.

As far as fixing the immediate problem, I'm only guessing: Could this have something to do your computer's dual boot configuration? Did you have to use any special boot loader settings? Have you done anything from inside Vista that might affect that somehow?

How about the second hard drive (running Ubuntu). How old is it? Could it be malfunctioning? Do you have a spare hard-drive that you could try in its place?

You mentioned you have access to the command-line. Are you able to start gdm ("sudo gdm"), or change runlevels ("sudo /sbin/init 5").

Have you recently changed out any other hardware? Say, a graphics card?
 
Old 02-17-2009, 02:08 PM   #3
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Hi, ty for the reply!

Unfortunately i don have another pc to install Ubuntu on it, only my 1 dual booot pc with this problem...

I did not use andy special boot loader settings, Grub was installed by the alternate installer when it detected my vista, had no problems with it.
Vista did of course some updates but i already thought about it and deinstalled all updates which were made in the time before ubuntu worked and began to freeze....after uninstalling them in vista ubuntu had still the same problem.

My second HDD is as old as my first one, bought 2 by purpose for dual booting with my pclast april. I did today both hdd checks which you could choose in the recovery mode of ubuntu in the grub loader for the system files and broken file packages. Both did not give an error.

I started ubuntu and used the fail save terminal and entered sudo gdm --> it replied gdm is alrdy runing, aborting.
When i wrote sudo /sbin/init5 it did not do anything only the command line for entering a new command came again.

This night i will run a complete ram check lets see what it tells me..
 
Old 02-17-2009, 02:46 PM   #4
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This does smell of a hardware problem.

I would try installing (just to check) another distro - any non-Ubuntu and non-Debian-based distro, just to be sure - and see if it works.
 
Old 02-17-2009, 10:51 PM   #5
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OK i did the ram check, 7 hours complete no errors.

When i will come back home i will try to find another distro and try it out, hope i manage it i dont know linux well, any suggestions which distro i should try out?
 
Old 02-17-2009, 11:30 PM   #6
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Again, it shouldn't matter.

Fedora, openSUSE, and Mandriva spring to mind.
 
Old 02-19-2009, 12:57 PM   #7
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OK i installed the latest Mandriva x64 (Gnome)install worked fine and it did not freeze BUT my 54MB TP Link wireless lan does not work..it detects it but it finds no signal....
But at least the OS works, so looks like it has to be a Ubuntu problem... andy idea about the ubuntu bug?
 
Old 02-19-2009, 02:57 PM   #8
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Oki i got my wireless lan to work after updating the driver. So Mandriva works fine now.
Seems to be an ubuntu software problem then, strange that ubuntu worked 1 months normally and then the bug appeared...any idea i would prefer ubuntu...
 
Old 02-19-2009, 11:21 PM   #9
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Oki i got my wireless lan to work after updating the driver. So Mandriva works fine now.
Seems to be an ubuntu software problem then, strange that ubuntu worked 1 months normally and then the bug appeared...any idea i would prefer ubuntu...
Again, I'm not a deep technical expert on Ubuntu, but two more possibilities come to mind:

1) Could your Ubuntu installation disk have been bad? Did you run an MD5 check on it before installation? (This is a way of verifying that there aren't any mistakes on the CD/DVD disk image.)

2) You could try Ubuntu 8.04. I think Ubuntu 8.10 is pretty cutting (bleeding) edge... 8.04 is probably more stable. And you could always upgrade later. Might be worth a shot if you really have your heart set on Ubuntu.
 
  


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