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Old 09-30-2021, 02:20 PM   #16
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Try MenuetOS or Clear Linux.
 
Old 09-30-2021, 02:29 PM   #17
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But is is ever going to get any better?
It is definitely better.
 
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Old 09-30-2021, 05:10 PM   #18
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Maybe the best answer might be something like this: "We 'throw silicon at it' now, because now we can!" But also, we now attempt to do – and actually do(!) – "far more than was ever then possible." Because of course our customers' expectations have greatly increased. "Moore's Law" shows no sign of stopping anytime soon – and neither do customers.

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Old 10-01-2021, 06:57 AM   #19
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High-level languages are not the cause of slowness and bloat - if anything, their proliferation is more a symptom of the issues involved.

Poor development is language-agnostic.

Although it definitely doesn't help when languages have crappy standard libraries which result in a much higher likelihood of bloated dependency chains, via NPM/PIP/etc - but again that stems from a lack of quality control and craftsmanship in those that built the language/libraries, it is not an aspect of their abstraction.

 
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I was putting it down to the enlarged size, and some higher level language use. And of course multicores help.
It just seems crazy that the compile might speed up but the boot time doesn't.
But is is ever going to get any better?
With a spinning disk in the machine no way for it to speed up on boot. The top speed of them has been stagnant forever. Putting in SSDs make them quick, a NVM-e even quicker during boot, the bus speeds have also got quicker to allowing for even faster boot speeds in newer machine.
 
  


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