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Old 07-21-2013, 06:00 PM   #16
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The free software organization has provided computer users a great amount of programs, including the GNU operating system. However, I think Richard Stallman is a little bit of an extremist. I think that the idea that all software becoming "free as in beer" is unrealistic.
It is.

The FSF is not about free as in beer, the Free in FSF stands for freedom. Richard Stallman believes all software should be free as in freedom, but is not against selling software.
 
Old 07-21-2013, 09:28 PM   #17
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Love it! ...(↶sig)between the lines my posts here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...rs-4175470121/

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...opensource...
...not open, Free...

...and of course.

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Old 07-22-2013, 12:08 AM   #18
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if I lived in the way Richard Stallman asks me to live then I don't think I could use Steam on Linux or use game consoles because in his eyes they would be bad because the hardware is closed and cannot be modified.
He is not just talking to you. He is talking to them and everyone. If I have had my best offer accepted. My computer would have been this one.

Free software is even relied on by Windows and Mac users also. Besides

http://www.zdnet.com/to-the-space-st...ux-7000014958/
 
Old 07-22-2013, 12:56 AM   #19
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Old 07-22-2013, 01:07 AM   #20
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He is not just talking to you. He is talking to them and everyone.
No... I'm pretty sure Richard stallman only cares that Treverend is the only one whom uses Free software. i rang him up and asked him, everyone else is Free to do as they want.
 
Old 07-22-2013, 03:35 PM   #21
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...My computer would...
Just whanted to put a neet link i found... Wonder if this one supports Blag and such? No.

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Old 07-22-2013, 08:23 PM   #22
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love it indeed! Regarding capitalism, it's just 'the invisible hand of the market' used to best advantage. Free software is more specific. I am not an expert in anything but if I want to build a wooden box but the use of hammers is restricted to paid membership of the hammers guild, how do I build a box execpt by paying my membership?

Fred.
 
Old 07-22-2013, 09:08 PM   #23
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love it indeed! Regarding capitalism, it's just 'the invisible hand of the market' used to best advantage. Free software is more specific. I am not an expert in anything but if I want to build a wooden box but the use of hammers is restricted to paid membership of the hammers guild, how do I build a box execpt by paying my membership?

Fred.
tongue in grove/dove tail and/or mallet with wood glue.

i.e. different structure/tools
 
Old 07-22-2013, 09:22 PM   #24
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straps or carve it out++L☒Literal+... http://www.gnewsense.org/Main/LaptopGuide

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Old 07-22-2013, 09:33 PM   #25
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Hi,
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Open source code is fine but what are you allowed to do with it?
Whatever the licence in question permits.

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Old 07-22-2013, 09:35 PM   #26
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I love the idea; unfortunately, i think that it could never work successfully within a capitalist culture.
I guess you didn't purchase any Red Hat stocks...

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Old 07-22-2013, 10:12 PM   #27
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opinions -- fun fun fun

well going to extremes is never good
it works for some , a small amount of people
R Stallman for one

yes he DOSE know what he is talking about , but he is also a bit of a "nut case" .

the FSF is a good organization , they do a lot of good work .

but taking a stand on the far left or on the far right , will NOT work for most people

stay someplace in the middle

there is room for EVERYONE in the "sandbox" IF they all "play NICE" and work together .

there is a place and need for proprietary software and for GPL software
Opensource can not do EVERYTHING all by it's self
 
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Hi,
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I like the FSF but I also understand the difficulty on having a system with only opensource software.
.. the FSF is about Free Software, not open source. There is a difference (but they are not mutually exclusive).
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:26 PM   #29
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The original point of IP laws were to encourage discovery and innovation. Only from a person willing to create from the sweat from their brow would spring forth new ideas. The Governments were to protect those ideas to repay the creators. After some time, the public was to get these ideas as part of public domain. The first copyright times were generally the considered generation time of 20 years. It is now 100 years or more and no one could life long enough to get those into public domain.

To suggest that everyone on the planet would just do work for the good of their fellow humans is not practical. It is quite well proved that socialism won't produce innovation because humans simply are not cows.
 
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R Stallman for one

yes he DOSE know what he is talking about , but he is also a bit of a "nut case" .
Hey they laughed at Neil Armstrong when he said he was going to the moon. Now look; he's up there laughing at us...
 
  


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