I agree. That licence clearly allows source distribution:

Code:

Ctrl + F binary

Ie: http://www.wikihow.com/Search-for-a-Word-on-a-Webpage
https://opensource.org/faq "binary"

Yeah, I know. But still, you can't really consider software for which source code is not provided "open source". If the source is not provided or made accessible somehow, it's not really "open" - it's proprietary.

"proprietary" means one thing whereas free as in freedom another and just plain free something else,,, I believe hardware* draws one line? Consider compiling open source code yourself to binary then it's not proprietary.

It all boils down to the specific licence:Here's one reason I use open source: https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/novena

Isn't the availability of source the differentiating factor? Doesn't source code have to available for software to be open source? If not, the BSD license really shouldn't permit developers to only distribute their software in binary form.

The BSD license can do whatever it wants (in accordance with "I am the law") and it is not entirely open source just like most hardware wherein lies GNU\Linux... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_blob#Acceptance

should we talk about your ma€?

I know some open-source software has proprietary components. But the components which are not proprietary usually have freely available source code.

Yes, I'm on a Mac. But the new Macs from the last few years (mine is from 2011) cannot be repaired or upgraded. That's why I'm in a Linux forum. I'm interested in Linux because it's Unix-like, it's not Windows, and it lets you use pretty much any hardware you want. I'm actually considering installing either Debian or Ubuntu on a 50 gigabyte partition on my Mac's 480 GB SSD and then installing REFInd to make it easier to pick an OS at boot time.

Not all binary files are the same, some have open source code first and are compiled for various reasons like speed. https://unix.stackexchange.com/quest...-c-source-code

Could try these out in Virtualbox to see if you like what built *buntus: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/u...y-live-builds/
then maybe: https://wiki.debian.org/MacBook
sounds cool.

I've been looking at lightweight computers for a few months or so now, I'd like under 11 inches with at least 4Gb RAM &c... reviews have landed me on "Surface Pro" ironically put out by microcoughed but I see no big worries for our Debian and so on.

I'm not saying that I think that software should only be distributed in source form and then compiled during installation - that would be a pain. I just mean that for something to be considered open-source, the source code needs to be available somewhere.

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I use it because it's cheap. It works. It can be adjusted to taste or need. Having had a computer since 10yo, I often spend my time thinking about how I would code something that I played or saw used by others. With open source, I can spend it reading how it WAS coded in a fraction of the time and have closure, plus time to do other things like sleep.

I worked for a microsoft based system once. After working on a mainframe one. While the mainframe one could bore me to death, the microsoft one actively tried to kill me. It was like every single program came with a pager rotation, and I was the only one able to answer a phone. The same issues over and over again that I had NO control over. Anti-virus updating every 4 hours killing off all of my processes that needed 5 hours uninterrupted to complete. An endless cycle of get out of my way, where did I put that gun. I needed a way out and open source was it.

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Agreed but the few times it can't be, blame the *ware "we" buy... they can't have 1+1 or 2 times 9 it's ours!

http://manybooks.net/titles/williams...04freed10.html
https://www.ibiblio.org/kuphaldt/electricCircuits/
http://makezine.com/2014/01/08/build...source-laptop/ ...

Have fun!

I'm not sure what package is opensource or proprietary these days as linux uses both. Unless Richard Stallman had his own linux distribution which would be totally opensource

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He supposedly uses trisquel. But like BSD pretty useless unless you happen to have blessed hardware. Or only need network and storage access.

https://www.stallman.org/stallman-computing.html

Never heard of trisquel.

I am glad that linux uses both opensource and some proprietary packages because linux would be dull if I couldn't make use of my graphics video card, play web content, install a printer driver for my printer and connect my android phone to transfer my files.

Blag was fun but I need non-free drivers so: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/u...y-live-builds/

...until I can afford that Novena board <3 then I too will check here: https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.en.html