Upgrading PHP without disrupting stable Apache 2.0 install

Jake_B · 07-06-2004, 10:06 AM

I’m looking for a tutorial on UPGRADING from PHP 4.2.2 to the latest stable version, on a RH9 system running Apache 2.0.

The guide for installing at PHP.net is pretty clear, but it’s not an upgrade guide, it describes a fresh install. I don’t want to disrupt my current Apache config which is working just fine. Don’t want to blow things up and have lots of down time and so on…

Suggestions?

ID10T_error · 07-06-2004, 03:44 PM

you shouldn't even have to recompile apache, just possibly change a shared module path in httpd.conf, but I would make a copy of httpd.conf just in case you do end up having to reinstall apache. do a graceful restart and you should be good to go.

Jake_B · 07-06-2004, 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by ID10T_error
you shouldn't even have to recompile apache, just possibly change a shared module path in httpd.conf, but I would make a copy of httpd.conf just in case you do end up having to reinstall apache. do a graceful restart and you should be good to go.

Another possible path:

RedHat has a habbit of putting things in non-standard places, and I hear that going from an RPM install to a source install is problematic.

I can get ahold of the RPM for php 4.3.7. Would this be a better way?

ID10T_error · 07-06-2004, 08:23 PM

If you are already using RH's builds then probably, personally, I like to compile everything myself. If I was you, I would scrap it all and build it myself, and then transfer the existing httpd.conf. Wouldn't have too much down time, but then again, I tend to be anal about compiling myself.

Jake_B · 07-06-2004, 09:54 PM

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Originally posted by ID10T_error
If you are already using RH's builds then probably, personally, I like to compile everything myself. If I was you, I would scrap it all and build it myself, and then transfer the existing httpd.conf. Wouldn't have too much down time, but then again, I tend to be anal about compiling myself.

Hmmm. Yes. Actually, thinking about it if I can bring up a test box to test it out on before I toast my live box. But, take a look at this and tell me what you think:

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[root@localhost php]# rpm -U --test php-4.3.7-4.i386.rpm
error: Failed dependencies:
httpd-mmn = 20020903 is needed by php-4.3.7-4
libaspell.so.15 is needed by php-4.3.7-4
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.4) is needed by php-4.3.7-4
libdb-4.2.so is needed by php-4.3.7-4
libpspell.so.15 is needed by php-4.3.7-4
php-pear is needed by php-4.3.7-4
php = 4.2.2-17 is needed by (installed) php-imap-4.2.2-17
php = 4.2.2-17 is needed by (installed) php-ldap-4.2.2-17
php = 4.2.2-17 is needed by (installed) php-mysql-4.2.2-17

Other than the php-imap / ldap / mysql, do I need to upgrade these other things to make php 4.3.7 work? I could go with an earlyer version,

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[root@localhost php]# rpm -U --test php-4.3.4-1.1.i386.rpm
error: Failed dependencies:
httpd-mmn = 20020903 is needed by php-4.3.4-1.1
php = 4.2.2-17 is needed by (installed) php-imap-4.2.2-17
php = 4.2.2-17 is needed by (installed) php-ldap-4.2.2-17
php = 4.2.2-17 is needed by (installed) php-mysql-4.2.2-17

But what is

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httpd-mmn = 20020903 is needed by php-4.3.4-1.1

I assume it's Apache, but how do I know what version it's looking for?

ID10T_error · 07-06-2004, 11:36 PM

Those are all the upgrades you will need to make. Download each one and install before you can install php. httpd-mmn is apache. I believe the number after is the CVE (common vulnerabilities and exposures) number 2003-0903 and any version after that update is fine, I could be wrong though. Either way just download an up to date apache rpm and you should be good to go. I suggest you look into getting apt-get and letting it do the dependendies work for you. Might make your life a little easier. Beware, as you install newer rpms on an older distro, you can sometimes get caught up in a dependency struggle.

Jake_B · 07-07-2004, 08:51 AM

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Originally posted by ID10T_error Beware, as you install newer rpms on an older distro, you can sometimes get caught up in a dependency struggle. [/B]

I'd like to upgrade the OS, but that will mean a move away from RH because I can't afford RH Enterprise, and Fedora is not stable for production...

ID10T_error · 07-07-2004, 09:39 AM

By no means am I saying reinstall the latest distro, just take note that the older the distro, the more dependencies will be found and I know I have ended up chasing my tail a few times trying to get all of the dependencies resolved, but that is a small price to pay for compatibility and security.