Interpersonal reasons aside I'd say good for him. It's also a good test. If Linux can't survive without him then we might as well go back to Windows now. No one lives forever. Now is as good a time as any to step back and see where it goes.

i never really bought into the whole hacker/asperger's theory.
i mean most people nowadays work with computers, and so many (claim to) have some sort of asperger's/ADHD/high-functioning mild autism/other social disorder - even if there's a large overlap, it's not necessarily significant.
i do think that we might have a generation conflict here; the young (or some of them at any rate) rebelling against the old.
i have no statistics to prove this, though.

word.

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Well, certainly I don't know any people of my age who give a fig for political correctness, whereas the young are obsessed with it. But is this because they are young (and will grow out of it with time), or is it a permanent effect of the environment they are growing up in?

Back in the 60's when I was young, we were all into revolution and black civil rights. We were very left-wing, but we mostly moved to the right as we got older. The belief in civil rights stayed though and probably informed our attitudes to feminism in the 70's and gay rights in the 80's. But we didn't have a "twittersphere" to punish the slightest scepticism about current orthodoxy with horrendous trolling. This is a social experiment that may yet go belly-up.

I think if you talk to a lot of 'young people' you'll find that they think political correctness is just as ludicious as you or I. It's the loony, vocal left on social media who generate the most clatter, but I think that they do not speak for the entirity of their generation. From my experience, most teens and those in their early 20s are concerned with posting on Snapchat and Instagram too much to get involved in faux-political arguments.

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Postmodernism and Cultural Marxism | Jordan B Peterson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLoG9zBvvLQ

So not politically correct when you were young then

"Cultural marxism" is basically a made-up semi-scare-mongering straw-man thing, borderline a conspiracy theory or revamping of the old-fashined nazi's "cultural bolshevism", not anything real (it's basically a broader version of "gender ideology"). "Postmodernism" is probably also not probably well described by Peterson, even if some elements of both things, the PC hysteria and lack of scientific rigor, are indeed true.

Counter-hysteria is still hysteria.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gender_ideology

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cultur...ght-wing_usage


"How cultural marxism became the far-right scapegoat", by Three Arrows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlrpSpwxgWw

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hazel, i couldn't have said it better (though i dislike phrasing like "i was left but moved to the right")!

i have been trying to figure out why this particular topic aggravates me so much. because it touches on FOSS development? noooo....
truth is, because i'm (just a little bit) scared:
i am white, male, heterosexual.
i never considered myself to be "normal" or conservative, but growing older, for the first time in my life I find myself in a situation where my opinions on certain sociopolitical matters differ significantly from what is currently considered "The Hip Left Wing".
and now there's a bunch of people that consider me problematic, or even illegal or morally condemnable (i always have difficulty understanding what they actually demand. punishment by flaming? prison in real life?).
that is scary, if "only on the internet" for now...

aside:
interesting how a wiki can push the creation of new terms.
"snarl word" or "moral panic" etc.

Edit: apologies for going off topic, I posted thinking it was in General.

Actually, you're an asset for them - an easy target for bullies*, one who is unlikely to use their own methods against them**.

They want what all bullies want - universal acknowledgement of their authority.

Or maybe I'm taking an oversimplified view of the world.



*The schoolyard variety. Many of these grow out of it, some don't. Unfortunately the herd mentality found on the web has given them a great deal of power and reward - which makes it harder for them to grow up.

**Personal experience. You can ignore them, and sometimes even reason with them. But occassionally you have to sink to their level to make them stop, and nobody really wins there.

Similar feelings here. I went to a couple of schools that were careful to make sure their charges didn't do anything nasty, like beating up smaller kids. Some of the smaller kids were quick to pick up on that and make life heck for their taller classmates, while loudly playing the size card in case of retaliation. Such fun for the biggest kid in school...

Modern "SJWs" shouting about Oppression by [insert group here] seem to me to be doing exactly the same thing. Both types of bullying succeed when people in authority are persuaded to (try to) unbalance the playing field in the bullies' favour.

The way I read that (assuming the quoted email is accurate), it looks like Linus decided to (a) make some changes and (b) take a break and let more socially capable people deal with those changes. Which implies that Ehmke and friends saw an opportunity and jumped in, rather than starting the ball rolling in the first place. That might not make a difference to the outcome, but does shed more light on the situation.

As an aside, I'm somewhat surprised Linus chose the BBC for an "exclusive" email on this subject.

Out of interest, why?

I assumed that he probably had a good relationship with the journalist in question and thus that he wouldn't be misrepresented in the published article.

Good point, that would explain it. There's nothing huge behind my surprise, it's just that one hand I'm vaguely aware that he's Finnish-American and the BBC is neither, and on the other the Beeb isn't particularly known for tech/FOSS news or "anti-SJW" stuff.

To be fair, as a fairly nerdy Brit I may well have underestimated the Beeb's international reach and its technical prowess.

another thought:
this is not completely true.
it happens "in real life" too.
i have experienced people who take prejudice-free phrasing to such extremes, and get righteously annoyed at people who just don't see the point, in real life, and felt their annoyance, too (*).
i have met transsexual people and suspect that they suffer extreme insecurities (no judgement here; just what i see).
and maybe i have already been told how wrong i am.
but in real life, there's opinion, and there's law. whereas in the current situation online, it seems some people would like to make those two separate things into one.

interesting.
i wish i could prove this for sure.

About Linus:
He's originally a Finn who moved to America not so long ago. IMO that does not make him a Finnish-American, but of course it depends on how you define that term.

(*)
fun fact:
the country i live in speaks a language that does not have separate words for "he" and "she", just one pronoun, and another for "it".
you can have a long conversation about someone without knowing whether they're male or female.
my own language however uses 3 pronouns, for male, female and neutrum.
i guess i often miss this, and ask my friends if they talk about a man or a woman, or i express myself in a way that i make it clear whether i talk about a man or a woman.
i have been criticized for being "sexist" for that - which i guess is true in the strict sense of the word.

Not true but interesting. Of course some people can misuse a phrase/term etc..., but that does not make it any less true. Regarding conspiracy theories, at what point is it no longer a theory and become a conspiracy fact, meaning, many things that were once "conspiracy theories" are now part of mainstream society/living.
1) phones spying on you
2) mass surveillance
3) advertising talking to you (specifically not generically)
4) mass data collection
5) smart watches/phones etc...
6) NSA putting spyware into the hardware of computers/routers etc...

All of those were once conspiracy theories only for the "wackos", now they are mainstream.

Regarding Cultural Marxism, it is most assuredly real, regular Marxism is strictly economic based, it is a way to radically control society via the economic field. Cultural Marxism wants the same control, however, it starts first with radically changing the "cultural norms" to a new norm etc... Both have the same objective/goal, different approach/method.

China witnessed this approach via the Cultural Revolution, it was devastating, college students slaughtered their teachers in public, anyone over 30 was considered the enemy of the revolution (unless already "friendly" to the cause) etc... The National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazi) had many public book burnings, and it became illegal to possess anything that was not approved by or written by the Nazi party. Dissent was illegal, differing opinions became illegal, same happened in China, Russia/USSR, and any other country that has gone down the path of Marxism/Socialism/Communism/Fascism.

Ref: https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...l_marxism.html

http://thefederalist.com/2017/08/23/...al-revolution/

Culture Revolution - Public execution & Impact
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIrUHVFkm9A

Nazi Book Burning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHzM1gXaiVo

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... And still you don't mind playing the victim card?!
It never even crossed my mind that you were either left or right as those terms are different in any culture. Only wanted to point out how the "extremes" on _THAT_(not just left/right) political spectrum are slamming each other...

Anyway, my sincere apologies if I hurt your feelings.

PS: Since you mentionned Debian in a later post, keep in mind that we do have CoC as well:
https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct

While I don't really like those things, I do like point 2: