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Old 05-13-2003, 01:28 PM   #1
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Silly RedHat 7.3 question...


Hi!!!

I've just switched from Mandrake 9.0 to Red-Hat 7.3 in a very old machine of mine. It works, in this machine, way faster and smoother then Mandrake 9.0. Although I still prefer Mandrake in my new machine, Red-Hat feels great in the older one .

I'm having problems to find the right tools under Red-Hat 7.3 though. In Mandrake, we have the options "Install Software" and "Remove Software" for the packages which cames bundled within the distro. I've found one in Red-Hat 7.3 called GnoRPM, but seems (I'm probaly wrong) that it only can remove installed packs. Does anyone knows how this tool is called in Red-Hat 7.3 (if there's any?).

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Old 05-13-2003, 02:27 PM   #2
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Kpackage (it's red hat's package manager) - you can add and remove software thru there and also as usual through downloading it and installing it manually.

if you have any more questions, feel free to ask, 7.3 is my distro of choice
 
Old 05-13-2003, 03:09 PM   #3
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Today's my lucky day A guy who uses the same distro I'm trying to figure it out. I can understand why everyone loves 7.3 already. The speed is outstanding even in my low machine (p2 - 400 and gnome).
I cannot find kpackage in any of the menus. Is there any chance I've forgotten to add kpackage during installation? If so, I can reinstall the system once I've nothing on it yet

Thanks for the help my friend and for the quick answer
 
Old 05-14-2003, 03:48 AM   #4
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you don't need to re-install anything
look in your kde kicker under system - that's where kpackage should be.
if it's not there, then put in your red hat 7.3 cd1 and it should automatically launch a program that will allow you to add software, if it doesn't then you might be able not access it some other way, let me know.
You can look here too:
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/l.../custom-guide/

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Old 05-14-2003, 12:34 PM   #5
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Thanks a lot yowwww for you help and attention . You are right. Under KDE, the package manager is called kpackage, but I could nt find cause I was under Gnome. Seems like in Gnome, it has another skin and another name, called GnoRPM. With your help here and into your homepage I'm doing really great with RedHat 7.3. In fact, for being an old distro, I'm doing better (and faster ) then what I do with Mandrake 9.1 .
The only problem I'm having is to install newer programs and console emulators due old libraries which cames bundled within this distro version. However, I'm getting all RPM's (newer ones) from RedHat homepage and everything is going smooth. I just have one more question if you have the time to help this newbie once again. I've just installed blackbox and I cannot run it (should it be startx <display manager name>). It always brings an error message:

"Fatal Error:
server is already active for display 0
if this server is no longer running remove /tmp/.X0-lock
and start again.

Also, in the main login (before start X) I cannot choose blackbox, only KDE, Gnome, Window Maker... Does anybody have a tip about it?

Thanks once again for the help yowwww
 
Old 05-14-2003, 02:58 PM   #6
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Kpackage (it's red hat's package manager)
kpackage is KDE's package tool.

Red Hat's own package tool is called redhat-config-packages and is available since Red Hat Linux 8.0, albeit somewhat limited in its capabilities.
 
Old 05-14-2003, 08:04 PM   #7
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glad to hear things are going well, if you end up half as happy as I am with red hat 7.3, then you will be quite pleased.

regarding your blackbox question - while it is true that there is no selection for blackbox from the login manager (only kde, gnome, default and failsafe) it is still quite easy to access - just make sure blackbox is installed and then pick failsafe and you should be able to run it (if memory serves me correctly from when I installed enlightenment just for kicks and then went back to kde soon after)

in terms of terminal use - I use Konsole in kde and really like it - you can make your konsole transparent too, just look under the helpful hints page on my guide.

I am happy to help, I have helped many people from scratch install 7.3 that knew nothing about linux and they all are elated with it now, if you have any more questions you can ask in here or if you want you can email me (my address is on the first page of my guide) or if a messenger client suits you better, I have virtually all of them.

On a side note, I received my very own retail, unopened, boxed copy of Red Hat 7.3 today in the mail. I had to get it so I could have it - I was so excited too - I'm such a geek. I am now debating whether I should open it or not, lol.
 
Old 05-14-2003, 08:06 PM   #8
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kpackage is KDE's package tool.

Red Hat's own package tool is called redhat-config-packages and is available since Red Hat Linux 8.0, albeit somewhat limited in its capabilities.
Thanks for the input, but if you read the rest of the posts in this thread it is abundantly apparent that we are talking about red hat 7.3
 
Old 05-15-2003, 02:18 AM   #9
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Originally posted by yowwww
Thanks for the input, but if you read the rest of the posts in this thread it is abundantly apparent that we are talking about red hat 7.3
Obviously. That doesn't make "kpackage" Red Hat's package tool, especially not since kpackage is a KDE application and Red Hat focusses on GNOME, not KDE.

Read my comment more slowly. Actually, they just happened to provide both gnorpm and kpackage with their respective desktop environments.
 
Old 05-15-2003, 02:59 AM   #10
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lol, just ask people who use red hat what they use - gnome or kde and you will be shocked apparently from your belief that just because one or two small settings (gnome as default during install which is easily changed and at the log in screen)

most people use kde and usually consider kpackage the red hat package manager - even if it isn't official

I guess I just don't see the significance on 'correcting' inconsequential details. I'm helping someone out here with some concrete information that appears to be appreciated. We don't need to waste time on unimportant specifics.

You should also campaign to correct College Linux because it includes kpackage and refers to it as red hat's package manager as well. Looks like you better get started with the pen to paper and licking stamps, lol.

Cheers!

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Old 05-15-2003, 03:34 AM   #11
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most people use kde and usually consider kpackage the red hat package manager - even if it isn't official
That's why I pointed out here, that kpackage is KDE's package tool.

Also note the fact, that kpackage and gnorpm are gone as of Red Hat Linux 8.0. There you will only have Red Hat's very own package tools redhat-config-package and up2date unless you install rpmwiz, synaptic or any other package tool from external sources.
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We don't need to waste time on unimportant specifics.
Then why do you do waste time?

 
Old 05-15-2003, 03:37 AM   #12
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hmmm, seems like I wasn't the one that came into a thread and posted something useless and irrelevant to the thread starter, but such is life, I won't waste any more of my time on your responses
 
  


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