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Old 04-06-2019, 07:34 PM   #1
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secure boot elilo paradox


As am Old man that been around the world been on many opensource software teams.
A bicycle builder and a Truck driver.
Blows my mind why the thought of not owning a computer.

All my computers since 2007 where built out of ST Louis
some Ecollege http://www.ecollegepc.com. just tell them to build it with the latest stuff asus msi etc. and send it to me with a blank hard drive.

I do not understand people that depend on a computer for their lifestyle do not just own it.
I been wrong so many times in my old age.
Just finished scripts to run transportation company scan and track and etc etc bill etc.

Why would some one need elilo.
The last Laptop drug out of the U of I trash can wanted secure boot.
That was fixed in a second is this a windows kiss ass thing ?
anyway send some money to Pat at slackware good people do good things.
 
Old 04-07-2019, 11:38 AM   #2
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Most of us who use elilo use it becuse it works like lilo do in the ancient times before secure boot
 
Old 04-07-2019, 12:37 PM   #3
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If you don't use elilo for a UEFI boot, you have to use GRUB, which is much more complicated!
 
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If you don't use elilo for a UEFI boot, you have to use GRUB, which is much more complicated!
I guess you have had issues with grub 1 or 2. I love lilo love grub they all work fine.
any reason why people are forced to use it?

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Most of us who use elilo use it because it works like lilo do in the ancient times before secure boot
Before the Disk Operating System sector DOS.
We used to do bio's setup from a floppy years ago for Packard-Bell
So Elilo lives on the motherbord UEFI
Not the boot sector or a lowlevel sector. MMMM???

Has there been a big change in lilo.
elilo lives in a boot sector also.
confused just do a default install on slackware all is well.
Never do a default install on any of the debain flavors. always manual.
strange been looking for that elilo option.

Grub is simple to me Elilo seems hard till I learn it.
how much can we do to the boot sector of a drive.

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Old 04-08-2019, 05:33 AM   #5
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So Elilo lives on the motherbord UEFI
Not the boot sector or a lowlevel sector. MMMM???

Has there been a big change in lilo.
elilo lives in a boot sector also.
Nothing lives in the boot sector of a modern GPT disk! It's just a dummy mbr. Nowadays there is a special EFI system partition where elilo and elilo.config (or GRUB) live. The UEFI is given the partition number and the name of the file it needs to boot from there.

There has indeed been a big change in lilo -> elilo. LILO could only find files by their physical addresses, so it needed /sbin/lilo to edit those into it. Elilo can find files by name as long as they are on the same partition, so it can read its own config file and then find the appropriate kernel and initrd.

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Old 04-12-2019, 08:27 PM   #6
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Thanks Hazel for your reply. Is that a Microsoft FAT?
OK so Elilo has matured nice.
 
Old 04-14-2019, 06:50 PM   #7
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The big reason
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MBR (Master Boot Record) and GPT (GUID Partition Table) are
two different ways of storing the partitioning information on a drive.
This information includes where partitions start and begin,
so your operating system knows which sectors belong to each
partition and which partition is bootable. This is why you have
to choose MBR or GPT before creating partitions on a drive.
solved two types of boot tools are needed one for MBR or one for GPT

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Old 04-15-2019, 06:05 AM   #8
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Thanks Hazel for your reply. Is that a Microsoft FAT?
Yes, I believe any kind of FAT system will work, but it's usually set up as fat32.
 
  


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