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Old 01-10-2015, 05:12 AM   #1
andrew.comly
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Thumbs down parcellite can't 1) paste all; 2) Disable paste history display


Hi,
Sometime linux just doesn't have as many choices in software as everyone online always brags that it does. For example, in my current Lubuntu 14.04 LTS there is no choices in clipboard managers. Either you have ClipIt or you have nothing.
In MS windows there are a few clipboards you can choose from. Once you have them installed, there is a way to
>Step 1: Copy 1st store's name;
>Step 2: Copy 1st stores phone number;
>Step 3: Copy 1st stores address
>Step 4: Copy 2nd store's name;
>Step 5: Copy 2nd store's phone number;
>Step 6: Copy 2rd stores address
>...(etc.)

Then you can
1) paste all (it retains the original order).

Unfortunately every time I paste something from the clipboard with clipIt, the original order I copied it is totally mixed up. Thus there is no way to paste the correct phone number and address to the correct store name. Is there a way to maintain order of entries in ClipIt? Whenever I select an item, that one item that I just selected appears on top and the order is totally broken.

It also appears that there is no way to "paste all".

Is there some other clipboard manager in linux that people who use Lubuntu 14.04 LTS can use? I tried to install glippy, but neither of the following commands had any effect:
Code:
  
>sudo apt-get install glippy  
>sudo add PPA ppa:bikooo/glippy  
>a@a-NC210-NC110:~$ sudo apt-get install xclip  
>[sudo] password for a:  
>Reading package lists... Done  
>Building dependency tree       
>Reading state information... Done  
>E: Unable to locate package xclip
Why does canonical coerce us LXDE users with such brute force to use ClipIt?

I even found some remote website offering parcelite and CopyQ i386 *.deb programs. I installed them.

Parcellite has the following problems:
1) History of pasting feature can't be turned off, e.g.
Provided that I copy "Store 1 name", "Store 1 Address" and "Store 1 phone number", if I then paste it in the same order on spreadsheet one, and also in spreadsheet 2, now when I click on the parcellite icon there are not the desired 3 lines of S1 name, add and phone#, but 9 lines of it, repeating again and again!
2) No "paste all" function(I don't have a mouse, I prefer a touchpad).
3) Clear function doesn't always work (delete history to make clipboard completely empty).

It is at this point that I really think that Microsoft bribed devopers at linux to purposely design software that keeps the average person's efficiency rate down below MS windows. NO WAY people who design software wouldn't think of something this obvious!
However at least in parcellite one has the reverse order option under preferences, but then again, why call the forward order "reverse". Quite suspicious.

CopyQ
It's hard to learn, and things that are hard to learn cause our time management to go DOWN. Kind of like the compiz config manager of clipboards, and insufficient online tutorials explaining how to use it! Also, it uses ~80MB of memory to run, really Heavy Duty! Moreover, mandatory backwards ordering: e.g. if I copy 1 2 3 4, four numbers separately in that order, then drag and drop over to the target window, it pastes 4 3 2 1. ZANY! Despite this deficiency it allows you to reorder with Ctrl + Up/Down/Home/End, and then once you reordered it accordingly you can Ctrl + E and then a gedit pops out with all the text of the multiple selections, and you can just select all (Ctrl + A) then copy (Ctrl + C) and then navigate to your target window and just paste. BTW, when draging and dropping, any non-English characters(in my case traditional Chinese characters) turn into question marks. But since I am a minimalist I really would prefer parcellite for regular use, and then CopyQ as an installed program for those special occasions.

Giving users a decent clipboard manager with the above basic choices is very simple. What's wrong with the developers for not providing users with something so obvious?

The final question is: Does anyone know of how to get parcellite/clipIt (for i386) to:
a) paste all(#2 above).
b) don't display paste history(#1 above).


Andrew
 
Old 01-14-2015, 04:31 AM   #2
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It depends on your desktop.

There are several clipboard programs available - most are tied to the desktop of choice.

For non-active clipboard, you might be able to use xclipboard. It can only run if the desktop clipboard manager is NOT running... It is a rather simple manager - it takes each clip operation and stores it as a separate item, and allows you to step through them. It doesn't automatically delete, so you have to manually do that... But I believe once you have the selection you want, you can paste all of it... or select part of one to paste.

At least it used to work that way - it has been a long time since I've used it.
 
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Old 03-03-2015, 08:53 PM   #3
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Smile solution

I guess my problem from the start was I had the wrong concept. It stems from parcellite/ClipIt are just meant to be super simple cut/pasteboard managers. Of course ClipIt always mixes each individual item's order up, and when parcellite pastes data the computer has significant lag time.

jpollard, thanks for the xclipboard suggestion, but I couldn't get it to install with sudo apt-get install command, thus I guess it is depreciated for lubuntu 14.04.

For simple cut/paste jobs I think Cairo dock's cut/pasteboard manager is best suited to me, and for more complex jobs CopyQ.
 
  


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