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Old 01-02-2019, 07:01 AM   #31
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That story simply proves that members of minorities can be total sh**s, just like members of the majority!

In this country we recently had a court case involving a lesbian couple who had physically abused and finally murdered the child of one of them. It was no different in its details from the numerous examples of children being abused and murdered by their mother's boyfriend with the mother's connivance, except that in this case the boyfriend was a girlfriend.

The new orthodoxy is that gay and trans people are always good but the truth is they're no different from the rest of us.
 
Old 01-02-2019, 07:16 AM   #32
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The new orthodoxy is that gay and trans people are always good but the truth is they're no different from the rest of us.
Well, they are different in that they're more likely to bring questions of gender identity into the home which can have debilitating effects on children. But yes, they can be crap and irresponsible in other ways just like the rest of us.

My parents made mistakes, sure, but at least they didn't try to let me 'choose my own gender'. My childhood was spent playing with Lego, reading Tintin, going to museums and playing computer games. I didn't think for a moment about whether I should be a boy or a girl. It's a shame that children in Brighton aren't afforded the same peace of mind.

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Number of children being referred to gender identity clinics has quadrupled in five years.

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The number of children being referred to gender identity clinics has quadrupled in the past five years, figures show.

Experts have warned that the huge spike is, in part, due to the promotion of transgender issues in schools which they say has encouraged [children] to question their identity, and “sowed confusion” in their minds.
Children look to adults for guidance on life since they have little to no experience. Telling them they should think about their gender is both selfish and destructive [but they may grow up to be good artists].

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Old 01-02-2019, 09:49 AM   #33
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I think children often confuse gender identity with gender role, i.e. the way people of a given gender are expected to behave. When I was growing up, gender roles were very rigid, and I certainly didn't like the one I was being saddled with. I had no desire to wear pretty clothes or make-up, to be treated like a princess, to trail around after boys, to eventually marry or to have babies. But I was still a girl. I just saw myself as an atypical girl.

There were also girls who definitely preferred the male gender role. They were called tomboys. They liked climbing trees and camping, but their gender identity was still female.

Nowadays, children who are unhappy with their gender role are encouraged to question their gender identity or to change it. Quite a few American children who have been hurried into transition afterwards turned out to be gay, not trans. Adults know the difference, but children easily get confused because being attracted to the opposite sex is part of the expected gender role, and they confuse that with gender identity.

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Old 01-02-2019, 10:05 AM   #34
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It's called the paradox of choice. I think the real problem [for me, at least, I don't know about others] is that there are too many different terms. It's like on our old TVs we just had brightness and contrast and we were happy - now we have colour value, aspect ratio, preset modes, input source, energy settings, sharpness, phase, whatever else.

Before all this we had just sex and gender. Now we have genderqueer, two-spirit, pangender, intersex, non-binary, bigender, trigender, quadgender, gender fluid etc. These are nothing but "hey look at me, I'm special" cards waved by confused and possibly mentally unstable millennials. Kids are being sent in circles both by the media and adults who are too selfish to know better.

Funny how it's easier to choose from a restaurant menu with 3 items than 30 - and how with the latter you're more likely to want someone else's.

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Old 01-02-2019, 10:14 AM   #35
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Funny how it's easier to choose from a restaurant menu with 3 items than 30...
Not for vegetarians like me it isn't, unless the choice is "eat nothing" or "eat nothing".

You honestly believe that homosexuality is "nothing but a "hey look at me, I'm special" card waved by confused and possibly mentally unstable millennials."? Wow, and I thought this world was finally getting somewhere with regards to accepting people's sexual preferences.
 
Old 01-02-2019, 10:16 AM   #36
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Not for vegetarians like me it isn't, unless the choice is "eat nothing" or "eat nothing".
Or have the mushroom risotto [again].

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You honestly believe that homosexuality is "nothing but a "hey look at me, I'm special" card waved by confused and possibly mentally unstable millennials."? Wow, and I thought this world was finally getting somewhere with regards to accepting people's sexual preferences.
Actually no, I don't. I should have been more specific, I meant the proliferation of the more recent multifarious 'identities'. I'll edit my post to say so, thanks for the correction.

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Old 01-02-2019, 10:30 AM   #37
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Or have the mushroom risotto [again].

Actually no, I don't. I should have been more specific, I meant the proliferation of the more recent multifarious 'identities'. I'll edit my post to say so, thanks for the correction.
I could eat mushroom risotto till it was coming out of my ears. Yum!

No problem, I didn't think you meant to lump homosexuality and bisexuality (if those were the original two - I can't remember now that you've edited your post) in with the various "identities". Good on you for editing the post accordingly.
 
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:47 AM   #38
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No problem, I didn't think you meant to lump homosexuality and bisexuality (if those were the original two - I can't remember now that you've edited your post) in with the various "identities". Good on you for editing the post accordingly.
But people do lump them together nowadays. That's part of the problem: the whole LGBT thing. I mean "T" is quite different from "LGB". One has to do with identity and the other with sexual desire. If it went by me, it would be LGBA (lesbian-gay-bisexual-asexual) and the whole trans/fluid/intersex thing would be completely separate.
 
Old 01-02-2019, 01:22 PM   #39
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Here is a truly revolutionary idea that no-one will make any money off, so don't expect it to gain any traction....Keep your sexuality to yourself and your loved ones. If you are a man that likes to dress as a woman, don't swing your panty from the rooftop proclaiming your right to do so. If you can pass for it---have at it, same for women dressing like men etc... I am sure this has been done for centuries, millennia even, but the absurdity is the politicization of and militancy that is coming with it. And before you start yelling *phobic, this also applies to "straight/hetero" couples. There, I stand for equal opportunity modesty, wait until you get home or to the hotel room to lock lips and swap spit etc...Even Dr.'s have the decency to ask you to say "Ah" first before examining your tonsils.

Also, don't force your life choice on others:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/489626...er-issues/amp/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ve-tweets.html

The unfortunate thing is how many of these people are being used as pawns in a much larger game that many of them are probably unaware of.

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Old 01-03-2019, 08:26 AM   #40
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I'm 388959. Not sure when I signed up, but it could not have been too long after you did. The registry was growing quite rapidly at that time. We had such high hopes.

I started on Mandrake Linux but would have moved to Linspire then Xandros when Linspire imploded. Was using Xandros when I registered. Kevin Carmody convinced me to try Ubuntu. I hung with that for a long time. When I retired I decided to move to Linux Mint 18 because I would not have instant access to a support staff anymore and wanted to move a bit further back from the bleeding edge in the interest of stability and taking advantage of the debugging performed by early adopters.

Sorry to see the registry go. Too bad the Linux Foundation or someone didn't pick it up and give it some visibility. Somebody with a marketing research background could have made it a useful tool for developers.

I think I registered sometime in 1995-1996 and have the low number of 58230!! Which I guess is even more meaningless now that the project is dead.
 
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I think I registered sometime in 1995-1996 and have the low number of 58230!! Which I guess is even more meaningless now that the project is dead.
Not meaningless to you and me!
I was registered user # 11379 (March 1992).
I sure wish the project had been passed to someone who would have continued it.

Michael
 
Old 01-01-2021, 06:19 PM   #42
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I had signed up at the end of 2007. My number is/was 459992.

Edit: Just realized it's still in my signature.
 
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I've forgotten my number. In fact I'd forgotten that the registry was dead until someone revived this old post.
 
Old 01-02-2021, 05:31 AM   #44
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I haven't read the whole thread, but as I see it, the project had outgrown its purpose/usefulness, not many new to Linux signed up, so the count was well below actual Linux usage.

I don't think it will be missed by the majority - it was of its time, & that time is past.
 
Old 01-02-2021, 11:32 AM   #45
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My understanding of gnu/linux .

Folks try to nice by nature and give up free time, money, servers, knowledge. Ask for pittance in return.

Sexual orientation. Religion. Politics. Are moot in my mind when it comes to this.

Been a member of that site for years. Donated a little when I could.
Good luck with the new life.

It is not like any ones legs are broken and they can't pick up the baton on this.
 
  


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