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Old 08-21-2006, 04:39 PM   #1
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Just a Windows Emulation Conversation


Need to understand the stupid people:

I don't understand the thinking behind wine or reactos. Wine is a program you use to run exe files. Soooo, what is the purpose of using a program to do this -- when it is obviosly faster to have the programs run as if they were a native Linux sh script. If you can execute a script with ./, then can't you edit that functionality to add support for exe files with kernel level support?

Why does the mouse change in windows applications? There is no purpose to doing that (wat are they thinking)--- How would I disable it in wine?

Since reactos can emulate drivers also, can't someone contribute their source files to make modules to use them in Linux?

Why can't wine use the Linux filesystem instead of using C:/ and Z:/ stuff. Is this a limitation of windows programs? I would'nt think so because it retrieves the list of files to show from the OS, which is wine to the program. Why can't they show / as the only drive in place of C:/ and remove all the lettered devices? Programs may expect the windows dir, but that is a registry value correct? So why not have the variable like $HOME/.wine/windows?

Why doesn't wine stick with the kde/gnome themes and use its own windows like themes? I know that the themes may distort stuff cause of size differences - but they can at least make it optional.

Can wine use a batch script too?
 
Old 08-21-2006, 04:55 PM   #2
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Keep in mind however that a Windows program expects a Windows environment behind it and calls Windows API, expects Windows paths like C:\\ and Z:\\ (no, most windows coders don't code with other OSes in mind), and therefore Wine tries to fake this Windows environment as much as possible to guarantee that the program will also work.
ReactOS is another OS, it can't be run inside Linux, unless you use a VM.
Wine changes the cursor because the applications can manipulate the cursor and load its own. Take Winamp for example.
 
Old 08-21-2006, 05:01 PM   #3
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Couldn't they create a C: and A: stuff but have them hidden & (sortof, lack of better word)hardlinked to / /mnt/floppy, so whenever it requests C:\Program Files\Something wine could just seamlessly lead it to ~./wine/Opt or something simpler
 
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Isn't there any way to configure wine to force the mouse to be your linux native mouse like editing something in its registry or ripping stuff from its source code?
 
Old 08-21-2006, 05:40 PM   #5
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https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu...-guidance-wine

I think its some project to integrate wine with kde, doesn't look like its done anything though
 
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Originally Posted by timrs
Need to understand the stupid people:

I don't understand the thinking behind wine or reactos. Wine is a program you use to run exe files. Soooo, what is the purpose of using a program to do this -- when it is obviosly faster to have the programs run as if they were a native Linux sh script. If you can execute a script with ./, then can't you edit that functionality to add support for exe files with kernel level support?
Windows, being very very proprietary and Microsoft being very very jealous of it jealous of it's code means that this is unlikely to happen - at least in the short term. ReactOS is designed for people who need to keep Windows but don't want to have to keep paying the Microsoft tax and who are fed up with all the viruses.

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Originally Posted by timrs
Why does the mouse change in windows applications? There is no purpose to doing that (wat are they thinking)--- How would I disable it in wine?
I haven't seen this, can you elaborate?

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Originally Posted by timrs
Since reactos can emulate drivers also, can't someone contribute their source files to make modules to use them in Linux?
Mmmm, the community has never thougt of that - asking manufacturers to open source their drivers.

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Originally Posted by timrs
Why can't wine use the Linux filesystem instead of using C:/ and Z:/ stuff. Is this a limitation of windows programs? I would'nt think so because it retrieves the list of files to show from the OS, which is wine to the program. Why can't they show / as the only drive in place of C:/ and remove all the lettered devices? Programs may expect the windows dir, but that is a registry value correct? So why not have the variable like $HOME/.wine/windows?
Because Wine is intended to fool programs into thinking they are running on Windows.

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Why doesn't wine stick with the kde/gnome themes and use its own windows like themes? I know that the themes may distort stuff cause of size differences - but they can at least make it optional.
Thought of asking the Wine devs?

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Can wine use a batch script too?
Don't see why not - both Windows and linux can.
 
  


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