I want to install Linux before Windows. I learned UEFI is scary. I've written this:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...windows-36461/

TL;DR: Make an ESP of 512MiB. Let Windows have the space directly following that (or not ) You are going to get better results, if you have a proper mainboard.

Any suggestions or remarks on this issue?

no it is not

but
the Microsoft's bastard child of ufei, "secureboot" is a troll under the bridge

just reinstall grub after Microsoft ( the other way is best - win then linux-)

or
put windows on a different hard drive

Your link is a little confused.

EFISTUB is not a bootloader, it is a feature of kernel versions after 3.3 that allows the kernel to bootstrap itself without the assistance of a bootloader in an EFI system.

You cannot "install GRUB unto the ESP" -- GRUBEFI installs it's configuration files on the ESP and then writes an entry into the motherboard's NVRAM that loads the GRUB bootloader.

It is possible to write an NVRAM entry manually using the `efibootmgr` command (or `bcdedit` in a Windows system) and boot the kernel image directly with this (I use this method to boot my Arch & Debian systems).

A word of warning: on one of my laptops, if Windows installs in EFI mode the firmware (BIOS) will boot the Windows bootloader (located on the EFI system partition) regardless of any attempt to change the boot order or delete the NVRAM entry using `efibootmgr` or `bcdedit`; the firmware re-creates the NVRAM entry if the "Microsoft" directory is found on the ESP. It is still possible to select the other NVRAM entries but Windows will always boot by default on that machine.

https://www.happyassassin.net/2014/0...lly-work-then/

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@Head on a Stick: that's useful info, but btw, could you name which laptop model and manufacturer has that annoying behaviour so that we can all avoid it/them in the future if possible?

Compaq CQ58

JohnVV, I'm going to get to know my enemy As far as I can tell, on good hardware it's even possible to add your own white-listed keys, so any flavour of any OS can theoretically boot with SecureBoot. For Linux I will mainly attempt it for the fuuuuun of it. For Windows I'm keeping the option open version 10 requires SecureBoot. (Chances are high they won't actually require it.) Also for Windows I appreciate the advertised security from rootkits.
That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification, I'll update the blog entry accordingly.
As far as I gather GRUB will actually reside in the ESP. The NVRAM will then just hold a value that says GRUB is the thing to boot.
I'm still reading that article you linked, Head on a Stick, but I need some sleep now.
Thanks for the replies.

http://kroah.com/log/blog/2013/09/02...-linux-kernel/