Installing BlackBox

Eits0 · 06-21-2002, 05:49 PM

OK, my experiments with Slackware continues.

I'm dead bored to KDE and Gnome (used KDE mostly in Mandrake), and I want something new this time.

I downoaded BlackBox from Sourceforge (it's tiny! under 1 mb!!!).
Question is:
In what folder I need to untar BlackBox so it works? Is there any other configurations I need to do to start it right with startx, so it wont start something else (although I installed only XFree86)?

Thanks.

pbharris · 06-21-2002, 06:20 PM

hello,
it will extract to its own directory. may i suggest fluxbox - it is the successor to blackbox

Druaga · 06-21-2002, 08:41 PM

actually, it will make its own directory within the directory you extract it to (just like most other source installs). I extracted mine in /usr/src but it doesnt really matter where you put it.

Druaga · 06-21-2002, 08:53 PM

after its installed. You can do 'ln -s /usr/src/fluxbox/src/fluxbox /bin/fluxbox' to be able to start fluxbox by typing 'fluxbox'. I just installed Fluxbox. I am not using BlackBobx although i think it will be the same.

acid_kewpie · 06-22-2002, 02:58 AM

FluxBox is

Code:

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the successor to anything. it is just an attempt to make blackbox slower and fatter than it is, which goes against the point of blackbox in teh first place. Blackbox is very much alive and works nicer than fluxbox any day.

"You can do 'ln -s /usr/src/fluxbox/src/fluxbox /bin/fluxbox'" erm, no. once bb or fb is installed they will be part of the filesystem and should be accessible by the conventional methods. if you have to start making symlinks then you've screwed up. and putting a link to something as abstract as a window in the /bin directory, which should only ever be use for core system utilities is VERY poor practise.

to start blackbox i use a /home/user/.xinitrc script with the line "exec blackbox" in it.

MasterC · 06-22-2002, 03:47 AM

Damn, you are almost as mean to poor Druaga as you are to me

MasterC · 06-22-2002, 03:51 AM

Oh...
And according to FluxBox's website it's based off of the Blackbox code, don't know if that makes it a successor to you, but it sure does to me.

acid_kewpie · 06-22-2002, 04:53 AM

I know perfectly well that fluxbox is based on the 0.61.1 branch of blackbox. you obviously have a wonky idea of what the word successor means. if you take a ferrari and add furry dice and a cup holder is that a successor????

also i would think that blackbox developemnt is much better. it's not what you do, it's how you do it., and i can't see the fluxbox makers keeping up with blackbox in terms of quality and such.

zLinuxz · 06-22-2002, 05:53 AM

it's the furry dice seated with an extra cup holder Ferrari! , it's also $4,000 more expensive than it's predeccessor with no furry dice seats and no extra cup holder, which makes it the successor,

can also say that blackbox is the prelude to fluxbox,

zLiNuXz

zLinuxz · 06-22-2002, 05:54 AM

I wonder if you made those two things up, or you actually got them in your car, heheh

MasterC · 06-22-2002, 06:12 AM

Fuzzy dice, he he he

Nah, I think of successor as something that takes the place of another, something newer and better; improving upon a design and furthering it. Just like FluxBox did with Blackbox. Much more than adding Fuzzy dice to my rearview. It would be what the F50 is the F40. A successor.

Eits0 · 06-22-2002, 06:27 AM

WTF is going on in my system now???

I DL'ed BlackBox, as said, moved it to floppy, vent to ELM (Experimental Linux Machine), started Slackware, wrote command "mount /mnt/floppy".
Then it printed something stupid, like no /mnt/floppy.

Soooo, I went to /mnt, did ls. It was nothing in there!!!
Then I tried dir & ls -al, and still nothing, logged in as root and did same things, still nothing.

Now I cant access CD or floppy at all.

I give up!

zLinuxz · 06-22-2002, 06:35 AM

woa dude, I thought everything was cool in your pc...you just wanted to venture into the Blackbox world cuz you were sick of KDE and Gnome. But ye never said your computer had grave problems like those.

MasterC · 06-22-2002, 06:42 AM

Ok, let's see if we can figure out what happen. Did you shutdown -r now
Just to get a fresh start? If not, go ahead and do it.
Oh, and on the other system, did you umount before taking the floppy out? I think linuxcool said that it might not write the info unless you do that. After the reboot, try again.

Druaga · 06-22-2002, 01:15 PM

successor (from dict.org):
From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) :

Successor \Suc*ces"sor\, n. [OE. successour, OF. successur,
successor, F. successeur, L. successor. See Succeed.]
One who succeeds or follows; one who takes the place which
another has left, and sustains the like part or character; --
correlative to predecessor; as, the successor of a deceased
king. --Chaucer.

A gift to a corporation, either of lands or of
chattels, without naming their successors, vests an
absolute property in them so lond as the corporation
subsists. --Blackstone.
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therefore wouldnt BlackBox had to have stopped development, handed over the source to FluxBox, and then FluxBox start developing where they left off to be a successor