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Please have a look on this imgur link showing deletion of packages defined by deborphan (#19) which can only be used with Debian, as the command suggests, to list orphaned packages.
My Openshot video editor got deleted by apt autoremove – OMG - My RAM resource usage is falling again…
So this time I installed openshot-qt and happiness was restored to me and the menu.
You can have literally TBs of 'stuff' on your physical disk and memory will not be affected. Only when data or a program is loaded into memory will RAM be affected. So if wanting to save on memory, best bet to watch what is 'using' memory to see what programs are loaded. Best way is to use something list the 'ps aux' command to see. Then you can start shutting down processes that are never used to save memory and also watch how much your 'normal' programs are using. Get down to bare bones. Linux will keep 'cached' programs in memory (if there, use it) but in reality that doesn't mean 'in use'. That said, you can do a lot in 3GB of memory. Shoot, running a RPI4-4GB as a desktop has more than enough memory for most things if held back a bit by the CPU. You just have to be 'aware' of how many things you are doing at the 'same' time.
Please have a look on this imgur link showing deletion of packages defined by deborphan (#19) which can only be used with Debian, as the command suggests, to list orphaned packages.
My Openshot video editor got deleted by apt autoremove – OMG - My RAM resource usage is falling again…
So this time I installed openshot-qt and happiness was restored to me and the menu.
This is the only thing you can achieve by removing packages: you will not be able to use them. That's all.
By the way, what do you want to achieve? What is the goal of this topic?
He think that because his cold just happened to get better after he stubbed his toe once, he will now remove his shoes and kick the wall as hard as he can whenever he feels a cold coming on. That's the logic he's using.
I have no need to be kind here, but as it is embedded in my nature so I shall spoon feed you the crux of your next investigation – the Slow Zone….
Known to many but not on this thread..
Come back to me if you cannot find that all I have said is true…?
Er, Did any of you investigate or are still in swap?
Come back to me if you cannot find that all I have said is true…?
Er, Did any of you investigate or are still in swap?
Do you know where to look...?
I wanted to say the exact same words to you. But anyway, this is not communication. If you want to do that you need to give answers to those questions, and try to understand the answers. It's simply pointless to reject everything you don't like.
From the other hand your explanation is unclear, we cannot see that mentioned speedup and you also refused to give more info (and make a documented measurement). So I'm not going back to you even though I can't find everything you said to be true.
You can have literally TBs of 'stuff' on your physical disk and memory will not be affected. Only when data or a program is loaded into memory will RAM be affected. So if wanting to save on memory, best bet to watch what is 'using' memory to see what programs are loaded. Best way is to use something list the 'ps aux' command to see. Then you can start shutting down processes....
I think you have helped me before so thanks again…. ps aux was new to me so had to learn how to use it or sort displayed columns. Couldn’t find the help so eventually concocted Andy@miniMAX:~
$ ps -e -o pcpu,pmem,command --sort -pmem
I also at times use sudo ps_mem.pty not realising the ps part was a command as such.
Not sure if these are telling me any more than Htop and can also see that even the lightweight LXTask, Task Manager gives you the essential information. However now that I know the ps command I shall use it more – thank you.
Yes; sure looked at those commands or processes many times but have never killed, stopped or played with any of them directly.
Would you concur that removing applications that invoke certain required or dependent processes has indeed removed said processes from the list thus reducing resource usage – CPU and RAM? Leaving the CPU and RAM to task a shorter list thus increasing speed or efficiency? Taking this initiative further it could release, say pulseaudio, for complete removal after linking anything that used it to alsa or alsamixer?
You cannot duck the fact that by me removing apps, utils and packages has had the combined effect of reducing AntiX-LXDE resource usage. Starting with AntiX22-Full 64 iso using any of the embedded WMs and FMs gave between 250 and 350MiB – anyone can check this out independently. (be aware of Antix’s own screenshots as they are from 2019 – 21, an older lighter version). I installed LXDE as per Anticapitalista’s instructions and then fully removed all the WMs, FMs, panels etc etc.
I am now suffering from the inevitable law of diminishing returns and do not expect to get below 140MiB via Task Manager which is about 117MiB if you account for TM.
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Originally Posted by rclark
...That said, you can do a lot in 3GB of memory. Shoot, running a RPI4-4GB as a desktop has more than enough memory for most things if held back a bit by the CPU. You just have to be 'aware' of how many things you are doing at the 'same' time.
As my screenshots and screencast videos show I have no need to keep an eye on what I’m doing at the 'same' time – the videos clearly show me multitasking to demonstrate even stupid multitasking scenarios without getting near the Slow Zone…..
I have grown to like AntiX-22 Full having trimmed some apps. I see no need to go further with reducing the apps listed by the desktop.
However whilst browsing the 1600 packages I noticed…. https://i.imgur.com/PtUS2us.jpg mp3blaster mp3blaster is an interactive text-based mp3 and Ogg Vorbis player with
a number of unique features. It supports multiple playlists allowing you
to divide tracks into albums allowing great flexibility with the play order.
It is not in the desktop menu – perhaps because it is a terminal command…?
Whilst this may be of use and even enjoyed by minimalists it is excess baggage to me as I have other apps for soundtracks and suchlike. Having said that support for multiple playlists allowing you to divide tracks into albums allowing great flexibility with the play order is an asset.
Anyhow, time to apply the Colin Chapman – championship winning Lotus Mantra…
Remove a shedload of WM and FM folders and files that are linked to embedded Antix FAQ’s
I’m shaking with laughter at your post so I dig your semi-hidden bad mouth too - Turn on, boot up, get Slack. F*** 'Em If They Can't Take A Joke! --J.R."Bob"Dobbs -
But Is that really necessary on our forum? So crass..!
The Joke is - This from a Slackware advocate – now that is a waste of forum space. LOL
To quote DistroWatch - But then I try to get something done - like installing a game I want, setting up video conferencing software, removing unnecessary packages and their dependencies, building a utility that's only available through source via Slack Builds, viewing a video, or installing a library using slackpkg and I am reminded why I use more modern tools.
But for modern desktop use, or even modern server usage, Slackware has long since fallen behind to the point where I find it too much effort to get common tasks done with this distribution. There is a lot of manual work involved and very little, if any, benefit to being forced to do this extra work.
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