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From what I have read here and here (please note that I do not condone the illegal ripping of any movie or any other illegal act mentioned on the page,) it is not permissible for any unlicensed person to perform any cabling that would be considered permanent. It is not illegal to have cabling installed in your home. From the first link, I gather it would still be legal to run cabling along on the floor or wall, as long as it could be easily picked up and removed. However, you should contact the appropriate government agency to find out the particulars.

Again, you should contact the appropriate government agency to make sure but I'm guessing it would be illegal, depending on how you want to do it.

Hope this help.

Regards...

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Well yeah. Me and my dad got in big shit when we whacked in a new circuit breaker and pulled electric wires for a bathroom heating lamp. Dad got fined a few thousand dollars for that actually.

At the time we did not know it is illegal coz in just about any country it is not a major issue.

Now. In terms of ACMA they just want to make more money and the electricians want to make more money

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1154765

There you go about the pulling of cable.

According to that both of your questions in terms of australian law is illegal.

For stuff like that in your own house.. i wish they could grab paddles and get closer to some mainland...

But it is a rather stupid law. I reckon just pull the stuff and throw a cable over the fence.

When you need work done, just pull them out again. Only way you will get busted is if an electrician rats you out.

Anyhow, the house we stayed in was rented and the owner approved the actual installation... just with my dad being very into electronics and having worked on mains for ages, still he was not licensed under australian law.

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Actually, in the USA, "it's your home, so you can do what you wish with it." You can install your own cables. (Although wireless is often much easier.)

Wiring between two buildings is most commonly done using directional wireless equipment because the cabling in question really isn't designed for "hanging-up outside-in-the-weather" applications and it will not last too long. A variety of specialized equipment is available, including laser links.

The laws of Australia and of other countries may be different.

Lol. Yeah, that is nice about many places. Your home do what you want.

Funniest one ever. Still not sure how this happened. Anyhow, my first electric wire pulling experience was at a house we bought in italy. We changed the wall sockets because they were pretty old and did not look up to the job only to find 3 pink cables.

At that point it was pretty much a rainbow of wires coming out the walls. Ofcourse 240v is something i do not dare do myself, but cat 6 solid core copper. No worries. That all tools required is easily found on amazon. The termination wall plugs. Easily found at the local hardware shop. Difficult thing to find. A bloody cover that looks nice for it and a house without wallpaper to make work easier at a later stage.

Still cannot believe they love their wallpaper so much here. If they just paint the plaster board things would be so much easier.

When I was working at the Building Research Establishment, we ran into a spot of bother because our two input clerks were graded as typists, not machine ops, and therefore were not allowed (under civil service rules) to use terminals. So we bought them two Texas Instruments magnetic tape typewriters and ran the tapes through to the mainframe every Friday. I used the paper output for proofreading.

There was no ethernet socket in their office obviously, but I had one in mine. So a cable was strung out of my window and in at theirs. No one queried it. We used this technique until the two grades were finally amalgamated.

With regard to DIY, Hilaire Belloc wrote:
Lord Finchley tried to mend the electric light
Himself. It struck him dead: And serve him right!
It is the business of the wealthy man
To give employment to the artisan.

that is just crazy man. Man says it is ok to have temporary cat5 in the house one is living in but he cannot put it in to the walls of his house that'd help prevent trip hazards for one.

I never even thought that their would be such laws on cat5 or cat6 in a personal home, regardless of who installed it into the walls.

before wifi I just put a hole in the wall of my apartment and wired up two cat5 plugs for one on both sides as my cable internet was in my living room so I made it so I could connect through the wall into my bedroom. Plugged it into a Dlink router and had my way with it.

I suppose that would fall into what? installing cat5 in the walls of my apartment which would have put me into another violation as I do not think I had rights to modify anything in my apartment. But it looks so similar to a phone jack I wasn't going to worry about it and even had a giggle thinking of what that other person would do when he tried to plug a phone line into it.

If their are such laws in whatever country one is living in someone needs to over throw that Government on grounds of stupidity.

And I always thought Australia was a tolerant place! From Ardvark's first link, DIY cabling is clearly illegal, though. What they'd say about the electric wiring in my kitchen doesn't bear thinking about...

I've run cables down the sides of buildings, I've ran co-ax ethernet (yeah, when that was a thing!) across a street between two buildings at 4th floor level, ran it across streets through drains, we never even thought about the legalities. I wonder if any of those cables are still in place.

Hi...

I agree, I think that crosses a line (no pun intended.) I do understand why running electric lines should be regulated but not cat5 cables.

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The question was more about a specific provider. At one time in the US all pots telephone wire was owned by Bell Telephone. You didn't have any right to more or add to it. Now you generally own all that extends past their connection point on side of building or at corner of lot. What they do over there I can't say.

Actually there could be a number of laws relating to cables like that in fully owned personal homes. Running cables inside walls could damage the building codes fire requirements. This by both making holes in firebreaks and by using flammable wiring. Most but not all cable now is plenum rated and could be run in plenums without firebreak dampers usually but you'd have to check local codes. NEC is clear on many of the voltage issues and it's relation to gas and water. These cables could carry voltages regulated in some areas or potentially carry voltages that could be regulated. A nearby city makes even 24 volts to be run in emt in commercial buildings. Not sure it ever caught fire but could.

So, you'd want to know who owns the wires and who regulates the building codes.

Perhaps they're just called "Unions."

My uncle was once involved in organizing a dancing event that was held at a public, very-unionized hall. The union informed him that, having rented a portion of the hall that had nothing whatsoever to do with theatrics, they must nevertheless pay for a "stage manager" and "grips." The individuals in question showed up in the stage area (which was some distance from the area in this multi-purpose facility that was actually in use), and it seems that they brought sandwiches, fully expecting to spend the day.

After sizing-up the situation, he proceeded to declare that he was, therefore, "the producer" of this erstwhile yet non-existent "stage show," and so by their same contract he could give them orders. So he proceeded to give each of them assignments: the stage manager would "manage" the front door, and the electricians would "manage" the light switches in the bathrooms.

Of course, very quickly, all of these individuals then found other "official" places in the city to be. (But he wound up paying for them anyway. "Lesson learned.")

Needless to say, the next year's dancing event was not held in that hall.

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"Yeah, I guess, in any ol' country on Earth, things can get nonsensically(!) weird."

Hmm, that sounds more like "racket."

The main reason I feel running electrical lines should be regulated by codes is to ensure that folks don't get needlessly hurt or killed. At the same time, it shouldn't be overkill and require folks to get a permit to change out a light fixture, as an example.

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These are clearly matters of LOCAL law and I live in the third world nation that used to be the United States of America before we inflicted upon ourselves the Donald.

Currently, where I live, wiring your own house for data is legal. If it requires removing wall covering or structural members it may require a construction license and engineer inspection. Running wire between buildings on your OWN property is legal. Running wire to another building OFF your property depends upon what land owners are involved, if each has received written and notarized release from the other land owner it is legal where I live now. In some communities wire CANNOT be run between properties without purchasing a license from the local (municipal) government.

Where there are restrictions the reasoning is clear: they must ensure that you conform to building, electrical, and safety codes for the good of the community.

Now none of that may apply to YOUR location, and I am NOT a lawyer in ANY jurisdiction! This might be a question for a legal aid forum!

licensing is there for 2 things
1 it cuts down on competition
2 it's a way for the state,county or city to extract more money from the building trades
nothing at all to do with safety