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Old 02-18-2007, 10:48 PM   #31
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I found it.. FREESPIRE.. lol

go figure linespire's free version... freespire

whats your opinion on that?

also what is the newest version.. i see alot

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Old 02-18-2007, 11:21 PM   #32
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Old 02-19-2007, 12:12 AM   #33
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Originally Posted by redsunrise
ok so my monitor blew up in a smokey plastic bomb... my room still smells of burining plastic.. anyway at least i was home. The monitor i got now is only running 640 by 480 or something so eveything is gigantor... lol. maybe ill get a nice new flatscreen.... (dent in my wallet)
Huh - when I was 17 I had to scrounge components to build my own computer because my dad wouldn't buy me one. My monitor was an old B&W valve TV set with parts cannibalised from other TVs and rescued from the city dump. mumble mumble - you kids don't know how lucky you are - grumble - and we had to shovel snow to go to school and popsicles were 5c!
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all i really wanted was a system that was better than or equil to windows me. it seems that ive done more sacrificing with kubuntu than anything.
It always feels like that at first - however, for everything you gave up, you gained something more. Mostly you didn't want to give up a certain kind of lifestyle - and that is something that has to change.
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Firefox: i said bye bye to IE and ran firefox. its running good excepting for it crashes from time to time....it askes me to install plugins.. the tells me install failed.
This is unusual - firefox is tres stable. You need to state exactly what you were installing, how, why, and what the exact error message was.
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Subs:
Koepete - worse than msn.. lol frankly its a step back in most things compared to even msn 6.0
Most of us won't go near MSN Messenger - the thing to focus on is what exactly you want to achieve. Do you even know if your MSN account is a pop account? Can you access it via HTML? You will not get full MSN functions back on linux in any way shape or form because microsoft will not let anyone make one. Note: you are free to return to windows anytime you want to shell out the bucks.
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Wine: i installed it. it works great for imulating insatalls... not so great with actually running the things.
Check your exact software in winehq to see how other people have fared with it. For games, have you checked cedega?
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I have figured out how to add backgrounds and all that, not that that was a real big deal.
Well OK ... did you look at www.kde-look.org ?
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my speakers didnt work throught the usb plug (which came with it). i tried it on my parent vaio xp.... it worked. It also worked on my computer before.. so that elimanate sound card issues.
Yeah - you have a special MS-only speaker set. Well done for getting ripped off. Most folk are happy with a cheap amp rig. off their existing sound-card. But if you drop an issue before you are happy with it, you have only yourself to blame.
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flash player, quick time, etc dont seem to want to install (quicktime kinda installs (it doesnt really finish.. files are there but the install says was unable to configure) but wine donesnt emulate it).
WINE doesn't emulate anything. It impliments the windows API in a linux/unix environment. As has been repeatedly suggested to you: look up the specific apps you want to run at winehq. For eg:
http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=1029
... installing the quicktime viewer

You can run macromedia flash with firefox (with the plugin - so getting this sorted will be useful) but shockwave is not available. You should realize that firefox doesn't ship with javascript or flash enabled because these are security risks.

Have you been through http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy ? If you won't use the resources available to you, then you can hardly complain when you cannot do what you want.
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i must say i do like adept package manager.. helps with managing lol, go figure
I guess you mean "apt-get" or "aptitude"? Have you used synaptic yet? Have you set up your /etc/apt/sources.list file for extra repositories (see the wiki link)?
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Java is working.... and thats a good thing. i think firefox had a default java that works because im using default settings for java now.. not sunjava that i installed earlier.
firefox has a java plugin - install the "noscript" extension - then firefox will only run javascript on sites you allow.
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apparantly scrips cause konquerer to freeze.. a lot.
I have that problem on some web sites too - usually there is something wrong with the javascript there (written to be used by the broken bit of IE).
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Overall: i do like the setup and system settings of kubuntu; however i dont like the amount of substituting i have to do... also being me.. playing games, being sunk into microsoft with so many microsoft things i use, etc kubuntu isnt helping me out with those that much.
This is why we call it "microshaft". You have been ripped off, plain and simple. Now you are moving to a different toolkit - so the tools are not the same brand you are used to, they work different and feel different. Get used to it.
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to tell you the truth i just got annoyed with ME and wanted an equil only better sub until i save enough to buy a new discounted xp or new vista.. i know microsoft has its issues but there is a reason it is as big as it is....
Yeah - they got their OS preinstalled to everyone's PCs right at the start, then were able to keep everyone ignorant.
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because so many people buy into them and you have a wide variety of options to use.
Oh no - choice is much bigger in free operating systems than in windows.
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u get a good antivirus like norton..
Linux is good antivirus - you don't have to pay anyone for protection when you are invulnerable
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internet seems the same to me on here than it did on my ME... no pop-ups.
If you have access to IE on something, go to http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer.html in IE and in firefox and tell me if your experience is still the same.
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i may keep kubuntu anyway because the my current alternative is returning to ME... which is pretty a dead end. I really only tried kubuntu and mandriva 1.
So far kubuntu is doing everything you have said you want except play your old windows games. You only actually listed a single game... which you really needed cedega for (I supplied the web reference ages ago). You chose to go a different way. If you don't take advise, you won't get anywhere.
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Is there a Linux OS that is as close to windows as possible? or can you think of a better emulator for windows programs other than wine. i thought it was supposed to be a compatability layer.. not an install and then have files that you cant use layer.
Well you didn't configure it properly. You didn't use the winehq site. Of course it won't go right. FWIW: the linux distro that is closest to windows is called "Linspire"... the free version is called "Freespire". Xandros has also been mentioned, maybe SimplyMepis will be more you too (less setting up).

You get less setting up with bigger distros also - fedora and openSUSE. But these are even less like windows than kubuntu.[/quote]Heres the two things im asking for then:

More Windows Capatable:

Linux OS
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Emulator[/QUOTE]

From the list you gave, you need only to get those old windows games going. Look to cedega and QEMU. Look for linux ports of the games.
 
Old 02-19-2007, 12:26 AM   #34
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yep.. what can i say ive followed instructions pretty bad .

anuway its more than just the games.... and i do have more than 1...

is pretty much everything other than java and the internet...
ie: ipod, music, a version of something like msn that isnt as bad as amsn, software running, and pretty much every cd game or softwear i own.

yep im a windows person myself... but if i had to pick me or linux id choose linux anyday.. however xp over kubuntu.. xp has my vote.. but thats not really an option for me..

ill try out some more things.. u gave me more than enough pages to get this running the way it should.

(ps. im not serious about the flatscren lol.... i got a n old monitor off a windows 3.1 that wants to run everything in 640x480 or something like that. 1 below 800x600.

well.. im gonna try out more stuff...

Writers note: Thanks for sticking around.. ive been a real oblivous dummy thus far.. lol This whole linux thing is new.. lol
 
Old 02-19-2007, 01:08 AM   #35
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ipod, music
Have you tried Amarok yet? In my experience, it's the best media player on any operating system.

If you don't mind using Gaim, that also handles MSN as far as I know. There's also something called aMSN, but I've never used or even seen it.

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and pretty much every cd game or softwear i own.
That's to be expected; GNU/Linux is a good operating system, but a poor version of Windows. If you know what I mean.
 
Old 02-19-2007, 01:20 AM   #36
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Linspire/Freespire is the most windows-like of the linuxes. You will still have the same problems running your old games as in kubuntu. You will also have the same issues with hotmail and iTunes and those speakers.

You will also be running a distro that microsoft most dislikes ... they used to be called "Lindows" against express protest from MS. The CEO also offered a bounty (claimed) to anyone who could get linux on an x-box.

OTOH: it is the distro pre-installed by wallmart (FWIW).

Have fun.

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Old 02-19-2007, 07:03 PM   #37
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Hey,

so i actually went through and read each and every post with the resources... here are my deductions:

- MSN Messenger - I have found out that it doesnt run on wine. They posted the same probelm I had.

- Quicktime - I supported by wine. I ahve installed it.. dont know if its working yet.

- iTunes: Doesnt work

- Firefox - The problem I'am having with it is that when you close one tab, the entire thing shuts down and gives you an error report. This doesnt happen all the time.

- Look - I followd that look page sumguy231 sent. i got some new stuff.. more customized.

- Monitor - This thing is being annoying. Mine blew up yesterday and this 13 inch one only wants to run 640x480... i can see half a page at a time. my desktop looks so crampt.

Synaptic: Follow system-admin-synaptic ... yeah... i dont have that menu.. lol.. i and do K-system-(nothing), or system - folders... i cant find the menu with the admin leading to synaptic. i saw a picture of it... i dont seem to have it.. maybe i need to add it to my bar or something.

I got a cd burner now.. gnomebaker.
 
Old 02-19-2007, 07:57 PM   #38
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- Quicktime - I supported by wine. I ahve installed it.. dont know if its working yet.
Look at Kaffeine for video. To be able to play all of the same formats, you'll need some extra codecs though. Look for the 'w32codecs' and 'libxine-extracodecs' packages.

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- Firefox - The problem I'am having with it is that when you close one tab, the entire thing shuts down and gives you an error report. This doesnt happen all the time.
Did you install it from the repositories, or the official Mozilla site? How did you install it?

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Synaptic: Follow system-admin-synaptic ... yeah... i dont have that menu.. lol.. i and do K-system-(nothing), or system - folders... i cant find the menu with the admin leading to synaptic. i saw a picture of it... i dont seem to have it.. maybe i need to add it to my bar or something
Those directions are for Gnome, don't take that section too literally. I'm not sure what package manager MEPIS uses, but look for Synaptic, Kynaptic, or Adept in your K menu.

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I got a cd burner now.. gnomebaker.
For KDE I recommend K3B instead.

You really need to start looking for native applications for Linux. Wine is merely a stopgap solution.
 
Old 02-20-2007, 03:03 AM   #39
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What's wrong with aMSN? it's the best compatible msn client in general. No annoying fuzzy stuff (although webcam and sound and nudge etc are supported), simple, stable.

Btw, somehow i get the idea, that you're doing your best to make Linux bad compared to MS Windows. You're not very well trying to make it work for you. I noticed this, because you won't follow the given advice much. (correct me if i'm wrong though)

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Old 02-20-2007, 03:55 AM   #40
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- Monitor - This thing is being annoying. Mine blew up yesterday and this 13 inch one only wants to run 640x480... i can see half a page at a time. my desktop looks so crampt.
It just struck me: is the monitor capable of a larger display? Or is it so old this is the biggest you can get?

You can change the resolution from the desktop, or by editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. What kind of monitor is it? How did you set it up after plugging it in?

Do you mean to say that your desktop doesn't fit inside the monitor screen? You have to resize it to 640x480. It will look big and so last decade

Firefox trouble: update firefox to the latest version, using apt. In fact, do a general update and reboot (there will be a kernel update in there too.)

I too have noticed your lack of following advise. (Or, at least, lack of demonstrating you have followed advise.)

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Old 02-20-2007, 08:41 PM   #41
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Hey!!!!!!!

- No that monitor want capable of going any higher... i know how to change settings. lol but a friend of mine had one they didnt want so i got that one.. its working good.

- I think I now realize that linux is not windows.. lol... and i conclude with this:

After 10 days of nonstop questions, many of which had been repeated several times I now know how to run linux or where to go if i need help. Ive come to grips with the MSN things and stuff and reason that in the end its better than having a computer system that freezes while loading itself.


Thanks for the help and for sticking with this fourm although its been probably very annoying. Now i start my Linux trek lol.

Thanks again, and see ya around the fourm;

RED SUNRISE
 
  


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