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Old 11-06-2011, 06:12 PM   #1
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Problems with different Linux distribution in desktop with an AMD Phenom 64 bits proc


Dear all,

I send this thread because I have a problem with my sister’s desktop with an AMD Phenom 64 bits processor, Asus mother board and 4 GB RAM memory.

It was with windows and worked ok. However, I installed Ubuntu and the OS blocked a lot of times, mainly when I was using the internet with different browsers (Epiphany, Firefox). It is a surprise for me because I've been using different Linux distribution and I've never experienced something like this.

After that, I installed Debian 6.0.3 and the OS doesn't block like Ubuntu (just once until now), but the browsers (Epiphaney, Iceweasel) are still blocking and need to be restarted every time.

I thought it could be RAM memory and I decided to test them using memtest86+ that worked for more than 30 hours without any problem. So, I think it's not a memory problem.

But, what it could be? How can I fix it?

Thanks in advance!

Cheers,

MPRT
 
Old 11-07-2011, 05:24 PM   #2
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There are almost no computers tested at the factory with linux. Linux uses different timings and paths and firmware to you can't just say it worked OK with windows therefor it must work with linux.

I'd set bios settings to default/failsafe, slow memory timings maybe, check or replace hard drive cables with good or best quality ones to start.

Never hurts to burn the cd's at the very slowest speeds just in case the disk is bad.
 
Old 11-07-2011, 05:44 PM   #3
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I can`t believe...I tried to access the internet with windows xp installed in virtualbox running on Debian and it worked perfectly. I open a lot of window with a lot of tabs and I didn`t have any problem.

Now I am sending this post by the windows xp...

Based on this, it seems the problem is not in hardware. Unfortunately I need to say that the problem seems to be with Linux...I can`t believe...

Someone else has any idea? I do not understand it...

Any advice will be appreciated!

Thanks!
 
Old 11-07-2011, 06:47 PM   #4
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I would argue since XP is runn8ing ontop of Linux then Linux isn't the problem either

Fact it there is insufficient information for anyone to give you a reasonable response.

Is iptables set up, are you using any browser plugins or proxies, what desktop environment or window manager,etc. You just haven't provided enough information for a meaningful reply.

By "blocking" do you mean crashiong, locking up, not letting you access or something else?
 
Old 11-07-2011, 10:54 PM   #5
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When your browsers block it may help to start them from a terminal and have a look if there are any error-messages when the issues occur.
 
Old 11-08-2011, 04:52 PM   #6
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I followed the sugestion of TobiSGD and started the browser Iceweasel from terminal and I found the following messages:

ERROR: Couldn't find Method "PRMX.start"
ERROR: Couldn't find Method "PRMX.start"
<string>Error</string>
ERROR: Couldn't find Method "PRMX.showExpand"
ERROR: Couldn't find Method "PRMX.showExpand"
ERROR: Couldn't find Method "PRMX.start"
<string>Error</string>

I don't know what it is...I will look for the information but if someone know it please give me a support!

Best regards!

MPRT
 
Old 11-11-2011, 04:03 PM   #7
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Anybody else has other tips? It will be appreciate because the problem persist...

Thanks!

MPRT
 
Old 11-20-2011, 09:25 AM   #8
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Dear all,

I don't like unfinished posts and I'd like to share with you the solution I've found. I based in two site that can be seen with more details:

http://www.htmlstaff.org/ver.php?id=23171
http://www.forumdebian.com.br/topico...wsers-no-linux

They are in Brazilian Portuguese and I'll write it here. The problem was with flash:

1) First of all I uninstalled the gnash. It can be made using the Synaptic Manager.

2) Open the sources.list file:

vim /etc/apt/sources.list

3) Include the following lines:

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free
deb ftp://ftp.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org stable main non-free
deb ftp://ftp.debian-multimedia.org stable main non-free

4) Save and close the file:

wq!

5) Update using the command:

apt-get update

6) Install the plugin:

apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla

7) After that, initialize the browser and type in the address field:

about:plugins

It can be seen information about the Shockwave Flash. These information didn't appear before:

File name: libflashplayer.so
Shockwave Flash 11.1 r102

Well, it worked for me! I can use the browser without any problem, open a lot of windows with a lot of tabs. The browser didn' t crash anymore!

Best regards,

MPRT
 
Old 11-20-2011, 11:49 AM   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MPRT View Post
3) Include the following lines:

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free
deb ftp://ftp.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org stable main non-free
deb ftp://ftp.debian-multimedia.org stable main non-free
You don't want the line from Etch in there, Etch is outdated and not supported. Also, since Squeeze and Stable currently are the same you don't need lines from both, in fact it is not a good idea, because when Wheezy gets stable you will mix two repositories, which can break your system.

Also, you don't need the multimedia repositories to install Flash, just add the non-free section to your normal Debian mirror, update the package database and install flashplugin-nonfree. If I remember correctly the multimedia repository sometimes breaks installed players because of different compile options. Keep in mind that debian-multimedia.org is not an official Debian repository, it is a third party repository.

Last edited by TobiSGD; 11-20-2011 at 11:50 AM.
 
Old 11-21-2011, 07:22 AM   #10
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Flash is not recommended because:

1. flash has a bad feature called lso's or supercookies that do not get deleted when you delete cookies so supercookies can be used by sites like youtube to track what videos you have seen since you bought your pc. This personal info can then be sold to questionable businesses.

2. the flash plugin for firefox/iceweasel is very inefficient when rendering videos resulting in system resources being stretched on many machines but the latest. On some pc's it gets as bad as video downloading getting slower while the video is being played so you get pauses despite your fast internet connection.

People have been aiming for alternatives like gnash for years, but adobe deliberately change the spec with new versions so efforts like gnash and swfdec are only ever functional with streaming sites for short periods if ever.

That is why it is recommended that you install this firefox addon that plays flash videos with your standalone video player:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...er/?src=search

Then adobe's flash is only used when it has to. Its tracking supercookies can be automatically deleted every time you exit or manually deleted during browsing if you use this addon:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...n/6623?src=api

Last edited by Ulysses_; 11-21-2011 at 07:42 AM.
 
  


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