I can install kcalc with no additional libs---because I have already installed KDE....

Seriously---use Python for math---forget about GUI calculaters.

W0rd. Better yet: use pencil + paper for math, forget about calculators.

What's "W0rd"?

And what about my original question?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=w0rd

What was your original question again?

Is there some panel/taskbar app that does not rely on DE libs?

Like pypanel?

I tried pypanel but it doesn't work right with my dual-monitor setup.

tint2 is pretty nice, requires imlib2- can't get away from all those dependencies, I guess

OK, I installed tint2 and got it running with plain Xfwm (that is just Xfwm, without the rest of Xfce).

I'll play around with it and see how it goes.

A few questions:

How do add a desktop switcher to tint2?

How to set the wallpaper?

How to set the mouse cursor?

Everything pretty much relies on something, but you might be interested in checking out `dzen2` for a cool, scriptable toolbar, and `dmenu` (a cool, scriptable application launcher / finder) if you want something (else) to launch apps and programs from.

Both are very tiny, requiring very few libs (basically Xlib and optionally Xinerama).

Dzen2 can be made to look really nice!

Sasha

PS - for setting wallpaper, I am still having issues with this :/ but two common ways are by using `feh` or `xsetroot` -- if you manage to get a real actual wallpaper using xsetroot, do tell us how you did it!! It is giving me a hellish time. And feh is very nice for displaying pictures, but when used to put up wallpaper, clicking ESCAPE on the desktop shuts off the wallpaper -- blah!

How about fbpanel:

http://fbpanel.sourceforge.net/index.html

A 1 terabyte hard drive is under $100 these days, who cares if there are a few extra libraries you never use?

I care. And it's exactly that kind of attitude that is to be blamed for the bloatware of today. If you as a user are fine with my application occupying 5GB on your hard disk.. I'll be damned if I'm going to cut into my TV-watching-hours in order to make it occupy less.. or use your processor/memory more efficiently.

Me too. It's the principle of the matter, not necessarily the extra space.