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Old 03-17-2004, 02:07 PM   #1
Outabux
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Angry Will Someone answer my posts?


I have used linuxquestions.org to research topics before. But posting my own questions--I have not placed any confidence that anyone would answer my questions, offer suggestions, or point me in the right directions concerning debian. I enjoy the challenge and the customizations in KDE's GUI and Gnome's plus the ability to know what's goin on if I configure it from scratch (my goal).

I got questions, any answers

What'll i gotta do to get a response here. Not even my supposed network question was anwered...only viewed. Do I need to include more info or what. Starting to think that this isnt for newbies...

Have been linuxing for about a year and have yet to do anything with it other than a few games, configure multiple OS's and try to tailor it to my needs ON MY OWN--not even university personnel were of any use.

Do I have to abandon my goal of being completely debianized, for Windows is expensive (i use XP pro and home in two primary partitions) but VERY STABLE unlike some on this forum would suggest?

Sorry for ranting, but DANG! I need some direction and aid. If im doing this wrong, please tell me. I feel like im out there by myself...im a mathematician, not a developer!

Though someday I would like to maintain a simple though useful package. But how can I get there if the only things I can work with are SuSe (rpm nightmare) or Knoppix (funny things happen w/ Nvidia driver when upgrading...gcc and headers and stuff) and a buncha junk i dont need or want.
 
Old 03-17-2004, 02:24 PM   #2
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When I log in here, I always look at the home page and I see that hourly you can have 100 new threads or more and hundreds everyday. And a thousand or more in 24 hours. (maybe it's even more than that!)

Sometime they get lost in the shuffle and many times people look, but just don't know an answer to your specific problem. You just gotta keep at it and refine your questions if you have to.

Good luck...

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Old 03-17-2004, 02:32 PM   #3
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Please do not post threads just to complain about not being answered. Some of your posts are less than 24 hours old. You cannot expect an answer immediately, we have members in all sorts of timezones and many will not see them until long after you have posted them.

If you want to push your post to the top of the list, why not reply to your own post with more information: such as your hardware and any error messages.

I have asked for this thread to be closed as 1. it is in the wrong forum and 2. these posts are considered to be unnecessary.
 
Old 03-17-2004, 10:48 PM   #4
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http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
 
Old 03-17-2004, 11:03 PM   #5
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took own advice and installed pump

took own advice and installed pump. : Works with pump -i eth0

dont know why its needed but oh well.

not to be a jerk but i have had other posts that must be six or more months old. these posts may not be the best, and i half faced apologize...but the wealth of questions are either supercomplicated or super beginner. And the reason i posted this is because is saw another that did and got answers immediately after that post.

i dunno but i will continue in linux with the caveat im alone except for google. most stuff doesnt seem to even fit my distro...i have parading over my hdds several distributions. None work right just yet, though i like debian for its configurability if i could get it right and SuSe cause its there in an instant though stuff (programs) may not work...

anyway good day, moderator...i do apologize, though i have had noone to tailor an answer for me for like real simple and easy...nothing of which could be described as my linux experience...I give thanks to those that have contributed to distributions, packages, and how-to's but not to anyone that has taken the personal time to help me one on one as most of my errors have been really small ones. I have posted this question earlier and gotten nuthing. Its widely over the net in some form or fashion but I dont understand why a working alone debian dhclient fails for this machine in X...

Oops, i forgot! Noone owes me a thing.

IT's been only ME! struggling through trial and error ova and ova and ova.



Oh yes why would that not be a network question? Network goes down in kde and gnome, any X at some pt and cant be restarted until a reboot...


Why is this? Are there other daemons that are better for the laptop environment (inspiron 8200 w/A15 M50/C840 BIOS.

Oh yeah, only dhclient installed with minimal install before apt-get install 'ing to death.

Last edited by Outabux; 03-17-2004 at 11:10 PM.
 
Old 03-18-2004, 12:59 AM   #6
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hey man... i've had posts here that have gone unanswered for YEARS! some of those still havn't been answered, and do you se me complaining publicly, NO.. it's the nature of the beast (forums), nobody here is paid to be here to answer questions, they do it becuse they can, and in trade some of thier questions get answered...
 
Old 03-18-2004, 04:05 AM   #7
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Do to time differense, if you post sometime afther dinner, the time in denmark would be around 2 am. and as I have to get up early(6am) I would be asleep. So even if I can answer you question(wich is not sure) I wont have time to do so before 4 pm, wich is the time im home again. At that time, you are properly at work, so you will not have the oppertunety to read it, before 5 pm (ore when ever you normily arive home) so it could take close to 24 hours to get an answer.
 
Old 03-18-2004, 04:28 AM   #8
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Yes ;-)
 
Old 03-18-2004, 10:32 AM   #9
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Quote:
Originally posted by XavierP
Please do not post threads just to complain about not being answered.

I have asked for this thread to be closed as 1. it is in the wrong forum and 2. these posts are considered to be unnecessary.
That is an absolutely absurd response. Maybe the moderators at justlinux.com are better.
 
Old 03-18-2004, 10:38 AM   #10
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I probably shouldn't say anything but - yesterday this guy had about five threads with 600 views and two posts from other people excluding this one. Now on this one, he's got six^H^H^Hseven replies. And his post wasn't saying 'Linux sucks, LQ sucks! Screw you people!' His post was saying 'This is frustrating! Am I doing something wrong?'

To me, it's a perfectly legit question and reasonable after several threads with *lotsa* views and practically *no* replies. I absolutely agree people shouldn't post threads attacking LQ or just complaining about a lack of answers on a given thread or whatever. But asking if he's doing anything wrong isn't wrong. If he *was* posting dumb threads, better to ask if that was the case than to just keep posting dumb threads.

Looking over the threads, I don't think I can answer any of them. If you can't get your mouse's scroll wheel working you'll get 20 answers in five seconds. Sometimes it's just a weird problem that fewer people might know the answer to and those who do might miss your thread - just bad luck or whatever. johnMG's link is an excellent one. Do check it out, but it actually didn't seem like there was a lack of detail to your threads. If anything, they just seemed hurriedly written. Maybe take a breath, slow down, and lay it all out step by step.

I have several zero replies, I think, and many that take a bump and still don't get a lot of response. I've felt some frustration myself. It happens. Don't take it personally and don't feel like you're alone. Just keep googling. After 24 hours, bump it. If you find something in your googling to try and it doesn't work, you can post back that additional information - might turn on a light bulb in someone's head and then they'll post and help you out. That sort of thing.
 
Old 03-18-2004, 10:39 AM   #11
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Originally posted by Rotwang
That is an absolutely absurd response. Maybe the moderators at justlinux.com are better.
Wrong.

-- Maybe I should expand on that. As I say, generally, people shouldn't post threads complaining about stuff like this - personally I see it as a borderline thing where Outabux did it okay. But the mods here are excellent and XavierP's can call it as he sees it. Saying it's 'absurd' isn't very productive. If you see it differently, say why you see it differently in a friendly manner.

I left LNO/JL over a year ago and came here because -- well, let's just say LQ is better.

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Old 03-18-2004, 10:59 AM   #12
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Originally posted by digiot


Looking over the threads, I don't think I can answer any of them. If you can't get your mouse's scroll wheel working you'll get 20 answers in five seconds. Sometimes it's just a weird problem that fewer people might know the answer to and those who do might miss your thread - just bad luck or whatever. johnMG's link is an excellent one. Do check it out, but it actually didn't seem like there was a lack of detail to your threads. If anything, they just seemed hurriedly written. Maybe take a breath, slow down, and lay it all out step by step.
well said.

it would be good to remember that *any* answer found here is created voluntarily and through generosity, not for hire or obligation. be grateful that the excellent people here are willing to help at all.

and it's not like there's a team of experts constantly hitting "refresh" on their browsers in 12 hr shifts every day - people come by, scan titles, post a few and leave.

in general, be patient, no one is more important than anyone else, even if that idea is unpleasant to many.
 
Old 03-18-2004, 11:13 AM   #13
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Sry Fellas and felletes

I did not wish for this post to anger or cause commotion. I was just frustrated and didnt want to go back to the ghost backups all the time when i make a simple mistake that could have been averted--which is usually the thing with me, alot of trial and error.

Anyway I figured out, I guess, that pump was a good choice. No problems so far. Got a response on the acpi problem and posted what I think was appropriate information to include.

My sincerest desire is to find someone with experience with this subject (debian and inspirons, maybe acpi and alsa) that I could correspond with. Im pretty good at that.

Ill keep trying and hope that I dont alleniate others. This is a great source of information and maybe I with some help with fix the problems. Then I will post it here and hopefully a home page some day to entail the process--I believe that the using woody (bf24) and exiting the install before tasksel and immediately moving into 2.6 is the way to go.

Only problem, there are so many ways to solve the same problem. In a way I just wanted a response like the question of the mouse.

Forgive me linux community, I'll do better and be patient and hopefully slow myself down.

Thanx!

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Old 03-18-2004, 01:21 PM   #14
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Originally posted by digiot
But the mods here are excellent and XavierP's can call it as he sees it. Saying it's 'absurd' isn't very productive.
What isn't very productive is when a mod wants to ban threads that bring up what his users think are problems with his board. Whether or not the user is right or wrong is irrelevant. Oh, or is this web site perfect?

Maybe we can make the board perfect by locking every thread that says it's not. Good way to run a site.
 
Old 03-18-2004, 01:44 PM   #15
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Rotwang - what would have been more constructive would have been to stay out of this. From reading his posts, Outabux has posted informative and good questions - but sometimes we can't answer a question. Posting a question asking what is the best way to get an answer is best done in the Website Questions and Answers forum - not in the Debian specific forum. It was sheer courtesy which prompted me to post what I did - I could have simply asked for it to be closed. In fact, of all of the answers in this thread, yours are the least constructive.

Outabux - as I said above, and has also been said by others, sometimes we can't answer a question - often for quite a while. With the number of members we have although it is likely that you will receive an answer/solution it is a pot-luck kind of thing. Sometimes you get someone with the same problem/setup who can answer, sometimes you don't. In your posts you appear to have the right idea - you post extra info and you also try things and then post again - all I can say is keep doing what you are doing, an answer will come eventually.
 
  


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