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Old 06-19-2007, 07:23 AM   #46
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Why Linux over windows?

Maybe because it doesn't nuke all my documents, settings, preferences, etc. just because I hadn't logged into windows for a few weeks. (I only use it for admin tasks.)

and to top off the oddness, only I have an admin account, and it's passworded.

Freedom of speech; choice; openness; stability. <---<<< All things that Windoze can't provide.
 
Old 06-19-2007, 08:24 AM   #47
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>> "Apple, IBM or BSD would have taken over. But with the GUI I think that would have been Apple."

hard to say ... and if granted that microsofts is non-replicable(which i believe) whether as a business or technology then i think might be x ...


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Old 06-19-2007, 04:08 PM   #48
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useing a windows computer is like driving a car with boxing gloves and hand cuffs on
linux gives me a compleate CLI
useing a windows computer feels like being an uninvited guest in someone elses home
linux there is no doubt who's computer your on

windows is buggy
windows is painfuly slow
windows is inscure
windows has almost no usfull free software ( none that wasen't devloped on linux first )
I just do not have the money to make windows usefull
I find the lizzards a hendrance in fixing problems and configureing computers
 
Old 06-19-2007, 04:40 PM   #49
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useing a windows computer is like driving a car with boxing gloves and hand cuffs on
Call me strange, but this line made me laugh...I got a mental image of other annoyances that would make it hard to drive...for instance, having your feet stapled to your face would make it rather difficult to drive =)

I dunno...it made me laugh...heh
 
Old 06-19-2007, 05:13 PM   #50
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not realy ment as a joke this is just how I feel when sitting in front of a windows computer .
But it's ok for you to laugh
 
Old 06-19-2007, 05:25 PM   #51
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not realy ment as a joke this is just how I feel when sitting in front of a windows computer .
But it's ok for you to laugh
Oh I agree completely with what you're saying...and I'm NOT laughing at you or what you stated...it's HOW you said it that made me laugh...it is an accurate metaphor.

I work with SQL Server 2000/2005 daily (accessed from a Linux/Apache/freetds system). I find it amazing that my Gentoo-driven 1.8 Celeron with 622 MB memory is always responsive (not to mention it hasn't been rebooted/powered off in over 4 1/2 months), whereas my Windows XP driven 3.0 GHz dual core with 1 GB DDR2 is sluggish by comparison, and requires reboots all the time. Guaranteed the dual core system is running SQL Server, but even a heavyweight like Eclipse doesn't seem to phase the Celeron...it violates natural law and common sense, much like attempting to drive with boxing gloves and handcuffs!
 
Old 06-19-2007, 09:41 PM   #52
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Let's face it: as a business environment, the computer business is absolutely brutal. You can be at the top of your game one year and bankrupt the next.

For example, there was a time not-so long ago when Wang Corporation owned the monopoly market on a type of machine that every law-office in the world had to have: a dedicated word-processing machine. IBM's DisplayWriter was a distant competitor to this device which, by all conventional business-school reasoning, ought to have been a continuous ticket to "the good life" for ... well, forever. Wang, certainly, did not see the sea-change coming: "they had an 85% market share!"

But the technology changed .. a laughable little machine called the Apple-][ and a only-slightly-less laughable machine called the IBM-PC ushered Wang into bankruptcy and oblivion.

The company which had a very large part in doing that was Microsoft. (And, like it or not, we should ruefully stop to admit that they were "a damn-good company" and that they still are...)

How ironic, then, that this same company is now staring its own technological obsolescence squarely in the face. A curious little upstart called Linux, started by a college student in his dorm-room in a country that is much too cold in the wintertime, has utterly displaced Microsoft.

How so? Because the hardware has changed.

Think about it: what makes Apple's "iPhone" something that is sure to sell-out just as surely and completely as did 'Beanie Babies?' {WAAAHHH! IWANTONEIWANTONEIWANTONENOW!} (ahem...) "It's the hardware."
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It is 'an OS/X box' that fits in the palm of your hand.
By saying "it is an OS/X box," I'm saying that .. although the iPhone is "on the one hand, completely different" .. it is "on the other hand, completely the same."

"Utterly-different hardware = utterly-the-same user experience."

Wow.

It's so "obvious," yet, can Windows do that? Nope.

Will Windows ever be able to do that? Nope.

So, on the one hand, we have Unix and Linux, who not only can "do that," but they "already do." On the other hand, we have Windows, which cannot do that and probably (sorry, fellas) never will. Which one wins? Duh.

The business requirement is that "hardware cannot be an insurmountable obstacle." As the hardware changes, the software must be able to change .. instantly. Windows, unfortunately, is locked away in yesteryear. Linux|Unix, fortunately, is not.

Game over.

(Curiously, history will shake its head at the fact that there actually did come a point where Microsoft probably believed its own marketing... actually believed that it had "a monopoly." And that, in hindsight, is precisely the point when Microsoft began to die. Maybe the lawyers convinced them of it; maybe it was the Federal judge. But the market did not wait for them. The market never will.)

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Old 06-20-2007, 03:56 AM   #53
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>> "Apple, IBM or BSD would have taken over. But with the GUI I think that would have been Apple."

hard to say ... and if granted that microsofts is non-replicable(which i believe) whether as a business or technology then i think might be x ...
X as in X11/X.org? That's the same; Apple just copies Linux.
 
Old 06-20-2007, 06:15 AM   #54
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i'm not sure ... can be a version of "ugly" x ...


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Old 06-20-2007, 02:59 PM   #55
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Actually - Apple does not use the X that Linux and UNIX users are used to. For instance, to install OpenOffice.org on Mac, you need to install an X11 compatibility layer.
 
Old 06-20-2007, 03:09 PM   #56
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"The fact that 'when Mom calls, it is only to invite us over for supper'" is ... as we all know ... priceless.
Nice ... You're not the only one!
 
Old 06-20-2007, 03:32 PM   #57
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Why didn't you just stay with XP? Vista sucks...
 
Old 06-20-2007, 06:26 PM   #58
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Why didn't you just stay with XP? Vista sucks...
because XP "sucks" too.
Win2k and Win98 (IMHO) were the best from the Windows series, but now they are gone...
 
Old 06-20-2007, 07:04 PM   #59
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because XP "sucks" too.
Win2k and Win98 (IMHO) were the best from the Windows series, but now they are gone...
98? DOS with a shell?

2k was hell lot better I'm sorry.
 
Old 06-20-2007, 07:17 PM   #60
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98? DOS with a shell?
It was nice enough graphical, and had nice system requirements. Plus it had a good DOS compatibility.
 
  


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