I came to this conclusion after trying to install a multitude of distributions( after having upgraded from a past to a current distribution thereby rendering the computer useless. My previous distribution thought (moronically) it'd be a smart idea to shutdown the repositories for old versions).

I've tried Fedora, Mint, OpenSUSE, Arch (it suprised me how flawed this was -- it couldnt even install), Slackware ,Sabayon, and Puppy. All were shit full of bugs. Debian was a little better but still had its problems.

If the distributions being absolute shit werent enough, the fact that practically every piece of software depends on Qt (big and makes my computer make strange noises) or GTK (which is part of the same fools who made GNOME3) tops it off. If I use Linux I am tied into idiocy in one way or another.

I just want one distribution, ONE!, that will actually work, without glitches.

If I were to have just now switched from Mac or Windows and tried Linux for the first time I would have to be insane to stick with Linux... And this would be the case, even without all the bugs and glitches, if my first experience with Linux was with GNOME3 or KDE which most major distributions still default to. It is not a superior Operating System.

Next computer I get is going to have to be one of the hideously ugly Macbook's from Apple, at least It will have a decent OS even if it is paper thin and ugly as fsck. It's a shame what has become of Linux.

I have to admit that if I wasn't "into computers" for most of my life then I'd likely buy a Mac too.
I disagree that there is anything wrong with Linux though and I certainly think it's here to stay. There are many people and situations where Linux fits perfectly and I am sure there always will be.

Well from what I can see is that the main thing in common in all your points is the user doing it. Works fine for me. Maybe you are a victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning...3Kruger_effect

To say, and apparently mean, something as broad and incorrect as Linux having no future is really not smart. Linux adoption is shooting through the roof in so so many areas, enterprise, embedded, mobile and desktop.

You're welcome to mostly say whatever you want if you can say it intelligently. Swearing is not appreciated though. As much as you may well make it a non issue, bad language won't be tolerated.

It's definitely here to stay.

Why dont you try Centos 6 with Fluxbox and choose your own software, whether its by rpm packages or source code builds. The link will walk you through and you will have a very stable distro which is fully customizable.

I don't agree that there is no future for Linux. It's perfectly possible, however, that Linux has no future on any of your personal machines. And I don't care at all if that's the case.

It sounds as if all of your real issues are operator related.
I use a dozen distributions daily ( and Win7, WinXP, Win-server 2003, Win-server 2008, a little AIX) and find none of them broken.
I may not like the way they work, but they work as designed and get work done.

I do not use Puppy myself, but it has a good reputation. Not everything is EASY on puppy, it is a tool to make things possible: it does not hold your hand. I like TinyCore a bit better for a desktop, but it is very small and restricted. Multicore (from the same site) is larger and better, but (again) they do not hold your hand. What they have in common is speed, size (small) and avoidance of the bloated packages (Gnome, KDE).

If you want fast and small, you do not get the hand-holding that the big distributions with big packages provide. You need to compromise somewhere, and where is a matter of personal choice. If you try, you can certainly find a distribution where the maintainers has drawn the same line you would. If not, why not roll a distribution that is exactly as YOU want it! There may be a dozen (or a million) other people looking for one "just like that'.

If you really only want to vent that is OK, but I cannot help you with that.

Hmm lets see how Gnu/Linux is going:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=yVpbFMhOAwE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvvOP6ocEe4
https://www.linux.com/news/featured-...built-by-linux

Looks like it is going really well!

By the way what is hardware aspects of your computer?

Regards

I have said this over and over to many people: There is no perfect system. Software is a means to an end, so whatever system accomplishes your goals best is what you should run. You can even dual-boot if you prefer different systems for different tasks.

Whether or not you stay a Linux user, good luck with your future computing endeavors.

it depends on the users NEEDS

if what you want is a FREE "point and click" clone of windows 7

BUY WINDOWS 7
and BUY a AV program like Norton or mcafee
learn to LOVE and LIVE with viruses and spyware

( mind you win 7 is BETTER than xp in the virus dept. )

Quon;

How do you explain the fact that I have used Linux almost exclusively for ~7 years? AND--a major portion of that was with Arch....

And how do you explain all the others like me?

Did he just insult Slackware?!

wow I must be doing something wrong, as I have been running Debian for eight years with very few issues.

99% of problems are user problems.

This is no different to Windows, after a period of time, Windows stop providing updates for versions of there software; the only difference is, Linux distributions maintain a much larger variety of software, so the user becomes more acustom to obtaining software from the repositories, and once it's gone, they notice it.

I must admit, when i first entered the Gnu/Linux world, i had a horrible experience with Mandriva, so tried Ubuntu and was very upset to find its performance was no better than Windows. I moved to Debian but it's old kernel didn't detect my screen resolution correctly and being inexperienced I blamed it on Debian; then i tried Slackware, and thank god i did, because if i never had, i'd probable still be using Windows and OsX. I've learned a lot since then, and now use Slackware, Debian and Opensuse as my primary operating systems, and i won't be going back.

Someone correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe GTK was actually created by the Gimp folks (Gimp Tool Kit), and then The Gnome dev adopted it to create a Free desktop environment as an alternative to kde which was not Free at that time.

Slackware is very good in this department in my opinion. It will take a little more work for a beginner but it's worth it. If you need a nooby friendly distro that's stable, a good option is Mepis, especially if you have a Nvidia card. Opensuse is also pretty good, i've found a few bugs, but i think it's one of the best.

I happen to like the look of Mac hardware, and purchased a macbook pro before entering the world of Linux. My MacOsX partition has been shrunk down to a minimum and i now run Opensuse 12.2 with kde on it, and am typing off it right now. I hate OsX, it's so limiting, the dock is horrendous, Finder is even worse, I dispise universal menu bars and the filesystem is hidden away and done strangely. Linux all the way. My Linux wallpaper on my macbook pro is of a dog shitting out an apple, lol.

Good luck mate, i hope you have better luck with Linux, If you've had issues with Slack, i highly recommend Mepis.


Thanks for sharing that, i'd never heard of that before.

Bookmarked.

no that is correct
gimp made it's own tool kit
then every on else started using it

but now even Gimp is moving away from gtk2 & 3 to gegl