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I was just watching a YT video on 'Google Chrome OS' and it made me think about the future of Linux because Google's OS is built on an open-source model and it might outshine the other distros. The Google brand is a powerful force to be reckoned with and could tap an unclaimed market.
This begs the question, is Google's new OS is a threat to Linux's existence? It might take the open-source model and start dominating the market and more importantly, potentially a big chunk of the programmer user-base. This OS is market-friendly and that means that programmers will be in demand to write apps.
Will Linux and it's community be engulfed by this tidal wave approaching?
(*Notice in that video that MS has written an excel sheet app for G; are they business partners[?])
It's a browser!
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excerpt from 'Google Chrome Blogspot';
Google Chrome for Linux (Beta)
At Google, most engineers use Linux machines, so we certainly heard loud and clear how much they wanted Google Chrome for Linux. Just like Google Chrome for Windows and Mac, we focused on speed, stability and security, but we also wanted a high-performance browser that integrated well with the Linux ecosystem. This includes tight integration with native GTK themes, updates that are managed by the standard system package manager, and many other features that fit in natively with the operating system where possible.
You are a troll! Plus one that doesn't have a clue, just phishing all the time. Post relevant, referenced material not your poor interpretation.
I wouldn't even call ChromeOS a pathetic excuse for an OS. It's just a bootable web browser
That is what makes it potentially great. Many people spend so much of their computer time in a web browser.
In a sense, it takes part of the Unix philosophy - make a program that does one thing and does it well - and applies it to the Operating System itself.
However, ultimately such an approach is going to be a niche market for the forseeable future. Most people want proper desktop programs. (And worse, most people don't understand the difference between "spreadsheet" and "Excel", and want Excel.)
That is what makes it potentially great. Many people spend so much of their computer time in a web browser.
Still, if all I would be able to do is browse the web then I doubt I would be interested in computers.
I want my desktop applications, file system, and dev tools!
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(And worse, most people don't understand the difference between "spreadsheet" and "Excel", and want Excel.)
It always makes me pissed off when someone uses the name of a piece of proprietary software to describe something that can be done with it, like for example calling a "Spreadsheet" and "Excel Spreadsheet", even when it's not in Excel format and wasn't made by Excel.
Similarly it annoys me when people call a computer-edited photo a "Photoshopped" photo.
Still, if all I would be able to do is browse the web then I doubt I would be interested in computers.
I want my desktop applications, file system, and dev tools!
It always makes me pissed off when someone uses the name of a piece of proprietary software to describe something that can be done with it, like for example calling a "Spreadsheet" and "Excel Spreadsheet", even when it's not in Excel format and wasn't made by Excel.
Similarly it annoys me when people call a computer-edited photo a "Photoshopped" photo.
When it comes to tech speak things pickup common labels then are just globally applied. Explicit defined speech would indeed be the way but in this modern world we have to really think before we speak. Be it abbreviated speech or text then confusion can be generated by the user. Most people who use this type of representation are just conditioned by their weak environment and have not been challenged to present information in the proper format.
It's just like the person who curses every other word. Weak mind and poor representation when communicating. They really don't realize the problem until they are challenged. Even then they will take offense and not correct themselves until repeated challenge or just ignoring the exchange.
If someone presents or uses poor language skills in their technical field then things can become very confusing for the exchange of information. I really don't like to use buzz words or techspeak but have to self discipline whenever communicating with peers who do.
I think you need to get your facts straight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JyFbF7QFlY
GOS does have a file-system and it is a true desktop OS. They've just taken the complexity out of using a PC.
When I first saw this video, I was also taken-aback by the 'cloud' concept because it seemed like an invasion of privacy, but really what type of information do you have that is SO confidential? I've been using Gmail for years now and it's great, and it's essentially the same thing. I can still store my fraudulent tax papers on my other machine, this OS only accommodates the user with basic and practical needs. If you want to game or do anything that requires serious processing, Google wants you to use your preferred OS for the time being. This may change in the coming years, but for now it is a speedy web browser with everything you need to surf the web.
My notes, photos and a few other things may be stored online but what's the big-deal, Google has to obey privacy rights just like any other company and they are huge player in the game they'll be very closely monitored under the microscope.
I personally think that the cloud concept is great because I hate having to transport my data around and keeping it organized. With the cloud it makes basic computing life a lot more simplistic.
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But I still like the idea of storing my own data. It's faster to access, nobody can see it, and I can always access it without relying on my internet provider.
Besides, working on your PC simply feels nicer than working a web app in a browser
I guess this is mostly because I like playing around with computers and I am a bit of a low level/hardware person.
I think you need to get your facts straight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JyFbF7QFlY
GOS does have a file-system and it is a true desktop OS. They've just taken the complexity out of using a PC.
When I first saw this video, I was also taken-aback by the 'cloud' concept because it seemed like an invasion of privacy, but really what type of information do you have that is SO confidential? I've been using Gmail for years now and it's great, and it's essentially the same thing. I can still store my fraudulent tax papers on my other machine, this OS only accommodates the user with basic and practical needs. If you want to game or do anything that requires serious processing, Google wants you to use your preferred OS for the time being. This may change in the coming years, but for now it is a speedy web browser with everything you need to surf the web.
My notes, photos and a few other things may be stored online but what's the big-deal, Google has to obey privacy rights just like any other company and they are huge player in the game they'll be very closely monitored under the microscope.
I personally think that the cloud concept is great because I hate having to transport my data around and keeping it organized. With the cloud it makes basic computing life a lot more simplistic.
Client/server is nothing new. The concept of 'cloud' is not either. Just because your not aware of the concept of services doesn't mean it isn't there. Heck, We had centralized control back in the early days of the mini/micro days. With the PC things started to get independent. Now the things are starting to get back to service controlled programming.
So if you feel that centralized systems are great why are we communicating here on independent systems via a server? I for one don't wish to step back and relinquish my security or privacy to that cloud system that you feel is so great. I keep my wallet close and don't share.
Back in the eighties we were using Crays that shared process and data with our micro/mini systems. The only reason was computational speed. So if you need someone to maintain the system and just do simple services then 'cloud' is for your simplistic actions.
Until Chrome closes the door it is still a Browser concept. When they hopefully release the Linux based Google Chrome OS for specific hardware then hopefully the masses can afford it;
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excerpt from Google Chrome;
Google Chrome OS is an upcoming open source[3] operating system designed by Google to work exclusively with web applications.[4] Announced on July 7, 2009, Chrome OS is set to have a publicly available stable release during the second half of 2010.[5] The operating system is based on Linux and will run only on specifically designed hardware.[6] The user interface takes a minimalist approach, resembling that of the Chrome web browser. Because a browser incorporating a media player[7] will be the only application residing on the device,[3] Google Chrome OS is aimed at users who spend most of their computer time on the Internet.[8][9][10].
Google Chrome is a web browser developed by Google that uses the WebKit layout engine and application framework. It was first released as a beta version for Microsoft Windows on 2 September 2008, and the public stable release was on 11 December 2008. The name is derived from the graphical user interface frame, or "chrome", of web browsers. As of March 2010[update], Chrome was the third most widely used browser, with 6.13% of worldwide usage share of web browsers, according to Net Applications.[1]
BTW, isn't it nice that Google selected to base things on Linux. Where's that M$ standing now. Bing! Really?
You just seem to shoot yourself in the foot or is it put your foot someplace? Get your facts straight!
The open source community seems to get into some of the oddest places? So where's your stance now?
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Google has to obey privacy rights just like any other company and they are huge player in the game they'll be very closely monitored under the microscope.
This is the most retarded thing you've said yet. Is AT&T included in "any other company"? If so, then explain the lawsuit against AT&T for privacy violation. Who's to say that Google isn't already leaking your information to the NSA, or CIA, or FBI, or whatever other alphabet soup agency (from whatever country, even) you can think up? AT&T got caught (and only then because of a disgruntled employee). Google may have simply not been caught yet (think about it...in-office daycare? Expensive catering? Any of the other random goodies their employees enjoy?).
And sure, AT&T got caught...but does that change the fact that potentially millions of users had their privacy violated? Good thing lawsuits stop the bad-guys, eh?
this is the most retarded thing you've said yet. Is at&t included in "any other company"? If so, then explain the lawsuit against at&t for privacy violation. Who's to say that google isn't already leaking your information to the nsa, or cia, or fbi, or whatever other alphabet soup agency (from whatever country, even) you can think up? At&t got caught (and only then because of a disgruntled employee). Google may have simply not been caught yet (think about it...in-office daycare? Expensive catering? Any of the other random goodies their employees enjoy?).
And sure, at&t got caught...but does that change the fact that potentially millions of users had their privacy violated? Good thing lawsuits stop the bad-guys, eh?
If it's on the internet, it is no longer private, no matter what the company holding that information says. If you put it out there, it's out there forever, whether you want it to be or not. Don't be fooled by "license agreements" that promise not to sell your information. Any implied sense of security on the internet is purely superficial. There are freely available archives(www.archive.org) of the internet out there that have copies of websites from different dates. While I was writing this when I said "it's out there forever" I figured I'd look up old versions of linuxquestions.org and microsoft.com just to check them out. Here is what I found.
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