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Old 07-30-2013, 09:20 AM   #1
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Russia Proposes Banning Foul Language On the Internet


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"In a country where it's illegal to insult a government official, State Duma Deputy Yelena Mizulina has proposed an amendment to ban swearing on social networks, bulletin boards and all websites. The website would be blocked if the offending material had not been removed within 24 hours. The name of the law this would be added to? "On the protection of children from information harmful to their health and development." Mizulina's title in regards to this legislation? Chairwoman of the Committee on Family, Women and Children (No joke!). Of course, Yelena Mizulina is no stranger to unwarranted censorship as she was behind the law banning gay propaganda to minors and invoked laws to try to silence critics on twitter. The article also notes, 'United Russia deputy Vitaly Milonov put forward a similar initiative on 25 July. He proposed to tighten control over social networks and allow people to dating sites through their passports.'"
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/07/...n-the-internet

So there is the Linus and Ingo Molnar swearing issue, there is the UK pr0n ban, and now this ... all by feminists. An interesting trend.

There are other pr0n bans in other countries too.

What will they censor next ?
 
Old 07-30-2013, 11:05 AM   #2
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They're just keeping the discussion civilized and positive. I'm glad someone is taking a stand against verbal abuse on the Internet. End of discussion, thread closed.
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:28 PM   #3
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What will they censor next ?
If I do a negative comment about the article and this ridiculous censure, LinuxQuestions will be blocked?
 
Old 07-30-2013, 08:33 PM   #4
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F*** that sh**
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Old 07-30-2013, 09:04 PM   #5
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One of these days I'm going to start my own board just to put up a boolshiat TOS like this:

"By using this forum you agree to give up all your constitutional rights, give me all your money and become my slave. This is totally legal because you clicked the agree button."
 
Old 07-30-2013, 09:21 PM   #6
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One of these days I'm going to start my own board just to put up a boolshiat TOS like this:

"By using this forum you agree to give up all your constitutional rights, give me all your money and become my slave. This is totally legal because you clicked the agree button."

"Where the only opinion that matters is mine". ?
 
Old 08-01-2013, 06:44 PM   #7
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"On the protection of children from information harmful to their health and development."
Protect kids from what? Kids hear foul language everyday in their lives whether in the streets and in schools. A website or social network is no different. These types of laws are by pansies
 
Old 08-01-2013, 08:45 PM   #8
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Protect kids from what? Kids hear foul language everyday in their lives whether in the streets and in schools. A website or social network is no different. These types of laws are by pansies
I found the part you quoted as interesting. It is Russia, people get blown up at railways, at schools, in picture theatres, poisoned with radioactive materials, but Putin is worried about bad language on the internet. Doesn't make much sense to me.
 
Old 08-01-2013, 08:50 PM   #9
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Fowl languagwe banned in Russia

cluck cluck, cheep cheep, cock a doodle do.

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Old 08-02-2013, 01:06 AM   #10
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Hmmm. Didn't Germany have the same evil plan a few years ago (2009 I think)? They had it planned with closing down child porn sites, then pirated software... Next: government critical reports, open source, LQ.
The joke: They wanted to do it using DNS, which was an epic fail itself.
As for me, I wouldn't need such censorship. There is always a way of expressing your opinion in a friendly way, but: What's gotta be said, gotta be said, and that's it. If somebody is insulted by that, then that was probably the purpose of it.
If an enemy of freedom is insulted by my posts, I just hope that he might think about his point of view.
 
Old 08-02-2013, 12:22 PM   #11
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In recent years things like twitter have been used for abuse, bullying, and even false accusations of crime. There are a lot of twisted people out there who will use the internet to do things they'd never dare to do without its anonymity. Why should it be any different to other media? If I wrote a newspaper article falsely accusing a person of a crime, they'd sue me. If a child bullied another at school, they'd be punished. If some-one shouts racial abuse or obscenities in the street, they can be arrested for breach of the peace. So what's wrong with bringing the internet into line with everything else? Obviously one could go over the top, but the proposal cited is just that: a proposal.

I'm interested to see that the original writer thinks that the existence of a "Chairwoman of the Committee on Family, Women and Children" a joke, and H_TeXMeX_H sees the (sinister?) hand of "feminists". Do I detect a whiff of what we used to call "male chauvinist piggery"? No insult intended, of course!
 
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It is open for abuse. Putin may define foul language as anything. "God is love" could become foul language. The Arabs have their own brand of what is foul, etc.
 
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I found the part you quoted as interesting. It is Russia, people get blown up at railways, at schools, in picture theatres, poisoned with radioactive materials, but Putin is worried about bad language on the internet. Doesn't make much sense to me.
Yeah, I know this foul language thing is on Russia and I do agree that Putin should be more worried about local terrorism than someone searing on the internet. I wonder if Putin got this idea about swearing from watching demolition man.

Anyway I'm just tired of the governments trying to run our lives. For example the SOPA thing, the censoring of the internet and now with NSA taking away our 4th amendment rights to protect us from terrorism.

I don't need the government to look over my ass. I'm not a coward like they are.

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Old 08-02-2013, 07:01 PM   #14
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Yeah, I know this foul language thing is on Russia and I do agree that Putin should be more worried about local terrorism than someone searing on the internet. I wonder if Putin got this idea about swearing from watching demolition man.
I think it is linked partially to activists like Pussy Riot and Femen. They use the internet extensively and are quite foul mouthed. It is just another tool Putin will use to keep his opposition quiet.

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Anyway I'm just tired of the governments trying to run our lives. For example the SOPA thing, the censoring of the internet and now with NSA taking away our 4th amendment rights to protect us from terrorism.

I don't need the government to look over my ass. I'm not a coward like they are.
I totally agree with your sentiments but we are not in the 18th, or 19th century anymore. The role of government, I think, needs redefining and not by governments themselves but by the people.
 
Old 08-02-2013, 08:46 PM   #15
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It's getting crazier.

http://bobcesca.thedailybanter.com/b...-same-day.html
 
  


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