Sorry you have war-related PTSD, jefro... but that doesn't impact my ability to enjoy Master Chief blowing **** up, Kratos slaughtering mythological creatures, Oedipus gouging out his eyes, Sonny Corleone getting riddled with bullets, King Joffrey executing beloved characters, Tony Soprano whacking his best friend, etc. (And yes, I am "old enough" to "listen to my heart" and "know the difference between right and wrong" so please don't be quite so dismissive of opposing opinions.)

Thank you for your service though!

Xeratul
is this THE PROBLEM!!!!! that politicians "say" exists
the same "problem" that the psychiatric community can NOT FIND any reliable evidence on


the SAME PROBLEM that politicians are mixing up "cause" and "effect" on

the SAME ones that are mixing up a "correlation" with CAUSATION
????????????????????????????????????????????

...which, I'll bet, was not caused by playing videogames.

the answer is not easy to find. Is there any solutions?

In terms of repect of personal rights, you are free of choice. You smoke cigarettes, and it is not forbiden. You may eat whatever junk food if you want,...

So, persons are free to buy or not to buy the violent games.


Maybe. Just an hypothesis.

If U ask me, I think there isn't enough violence in games.

In Angry Birds, I want to see blood, guts and dying screams from the birds when they crash into the houses.

Really, even Angry birds, I think that it is much too violent for kids.
You cannot kill birds ... come on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCYtIxqDIDw

They're not real birds just animated pixels.

"cant kill birds"
????????

The that to "Wile E. Coyote"
http://www.feministe.us/blog/wp-cont...e-E-Coyote.jpg
but then again he only caught him one time then released him
--- "catch and release " ---

What about orphans? I blame everybody, K1-up for all! Wish ("desire, want, hope for, covet, dream of, long for, yearn for, crave, hunger for, lust after;
aspire to, be desirous of, set one's heart on, seek, fancy, hanker after;
have a yen for, itch for...") in one hand, s#!t in the other, all you got is one dirty hand?

More so than we are what we eat, we are what we learn!
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In the end I still think it is up to the parents. I don't really buy the whole argument about media in the first place, case in point since the mass shooter in CT favorite game was DDR. I played many-a hours of violent games , though back in my day it was things like DOOM , though I never had any urge to shoot someone, Mortal Kombat , though in real life I would most likely just gotten my ass kicked. I enjoyed and still enjoy watching playthroughs of Silent Hill games, but I don't have a sudden urge to sacrifice people, or hack at them with an axe. Ironically I can't stand the sight of blood in real life.

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Not to derail this topic too much, I was too young but I remember seeing the documentaries about content of music in the 1980s, how metal was such a bad influence, and the funniest thing was the reaction to the bands, and how they welcomed the mandatory labeling of their music, thus by increasing sales almost ten-fold. Hell seeing those groups burning records, bands joked 'that they had to buy the record first before burning it.'

Oh yea, and in my youth and even now, I still enjoy heavy music, metal, etc. Strange though I don't have a sudden urge to kill myself and I liked this explanation about that as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdhDLAzmyi0.

If a person is unstable enough, he/she does not even need any sort of external influence to do what they do in the first place (mass shooters, murderers) - I'm sure their surroundings and what they are exposed to was tame, and probably were even sheltered from some of the media anyways.

However violent games have gotten, I really could care less. I haven't played any games lately anyways, mostly due to changed priorities. Would I join the crusade against them? No, just the opposite. I would be like Frank Zappa as well in the 1980s and defend it, and also his arguments about the content of music at the time are correct, and applies to this medium as well. Why should it be censored?

Oh yea, also back in my high school days, I liked to wear black all the time, yes I dawned my t-shirts of metal-bands, particularly Megadeth. Yes I kept to myself well over 90% of the time and I never joined any after school activities or anything - hmm, but I'm still here, and I didn't shoot up anybody, though I remember after Columbine - then the mass-panic thanks in part due to the media, no not the same media we are talking about, but the 'news' media, same organization that was scare-mongering over video-games. What did they say in their coverage? Oh yea something about the shooters being fans of violent games and/or heavy metal music, particularly Marilyn Manson. The public needs some kind of scapegoat, because they just can't accept that someone would just do what they do because they are already twisted. I'm not much of a fan of his music, but the way he responded to the aftermath was excellent, his comments were spot on.

So essentially I was the quiet one , which reminds me now of what George Carlin said about the quiet ones. , and to this day I still am relatively, quiet

Incidentally, I'm reading a book called The Last Full Measure, about how weapons technology has shaped battlefield tactics, and IMHO it's one that every videogame designer should read.

Review

Your interpretation is a little off. What we are doing is pointing out the double standard. "Gun" violence is both extremely rare and has been declining for many years compared to other forms of violence (except for locations which have the strictest gun control laws). But the main point is that every time the media sensationalizes someone going on a mass killing spree with a gun the .gov wants to limit gun use by the people who can deter the mass killing but turn a blind eye to all the many other mass killings that happen with instruments other than guns.

If you really want an industry to blame how about looking at the media for making sure every killer gets more than 15 minutes of fame. I should edit and say that blaming media is no better then blaming games before someone thinks I'm saying "blame the media". Its still the people who watch the news shows that give them the $ do do it.

The real problem is that we have lowered the value of human life. We don't interact with each other because we are too busy driving 1.5 hours to work so we can get more $ to buy the latest iphad. So the people you interact with are just another jerk that cut you off rather then your neighbors whom you know.

Declining? Yes, indeed it is. Extremely rare? Not at all, compared to any other western (and many other) country.
And that there are places with strict gun control is useless unless all places have strict gun control. What use is gun control when I can just make a car ride into the next state and buy anything I want.

Other countries have less gun ownership so compare the ratio of ownership to number of "gun" crimes between nations then remove the fake "gun" crimes (The Boston bomber did not use a gun but is lumped in as a "gun" crime by the anti's). Then figure other violent crimes are much higher in those countries.

You can't just drive to another state and buy what you want, you can buy but it has to be shipped into your state to an FFL dealer who then has to abide by your states rules.