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Old 05-04-2004, 01:41 AM   #16
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you can do it in about 2 days if you go around posting "Hi" in every thread.

and free, net, and openbsd all have about the same software as linux, just different kernels.
 
Old 05-04-2004, 03:39 AM   #17
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So I take it free, net and openbsd are separate os's?
 
Old 05-04-2004, 03:47 AM   #18
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guru
n 1: a Hindu or Sikh religious leader and personal teacher
2: a recognized leader in some field or of some movement; "a
guru of genomics"


Guru is really just a slang term us computer geeks throw around. By this definition Jeremy would be a guru. It has nothing to do with his knowledge of linux but rather his leadership in the linuxquestions.org movement.
 
Old 05-04-2004, 03:38 PM   #19
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yes, the bsd's are different os's.
www.netbsd.org
www.freebsd.org
www.openbsd.org
 
Old 05-04-2004, 04:58 PM   #20
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"forget about the GUI, it has nothing to do with what nodger is saying. basically he means that you should run the FreeBSD operating system in text mode (so you have to do everything with standard commands and no GNOME or KDE shit)."

KDE and GNOME are GUI's so it has everything to do with what I was saying. As for running FreeBSD in text mode, I can do that in Mandrake, or Red Hat.
Thinking about it, it would not help running in text all the time, as and I may be wrong about this can anyone type in Lynx quicker than they can navigate using netscape/mozilla? I am not knocking Lynx by the way, I know it supports a lot of protocols. Anyway my point is to get answers to questions would be harder.
 
Old 05-04-2004, 06:07 PM   #21
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Actually, a mix of both is usually better. Sometimes clicking and dragging your way to something takes more time than typing a short 20 or 30 character command. I am thinking about installing one package that you know the name of with GUI vs CLI. For example, if I were to want to install the pager, "most" because I like colored man mages, I'd do this with Mandrake:
Code:
urpmi.update -a
to update my sources and
Code:
uprmi most
to install it. It'd fetch it and the dependancies. Debian would be:
Code:
apt-get update
and
Code:
apt-get install most
With the CLI, I'd have to open RPMdrake (mandrake) or KPackage/Synaptic (Debian), wait for it to open, update (which seems to take linger to do), find the package in the list, click on it, choose install and wait for it to install, close the window (or windows, in the case of Kpackage or Synaptic).

With this example, most would have been installed CLI in less time than it would have taken to get a mirror update with GUI.

Other things are downright faster with the mouse. I can open Opera with one mouse click, as its on my taskbar. I can be at LQ clicking my first link in about 2-3 seconds tops.

BOTH are good.

I think that if you want to be a guru, you should learn what you have first inside out. Play with the GUI. Practice setting up networks (if you have the network, that is - or get VMWare and make a fake network.LOL) with your mouse. Then try to do it in a console. Try navigating every program you have installed. Go through the whole menu. Turn off the GUI and start navigating your hard drive and read every config file you find (use most, it'll be pretty). Most of the time, they are well commented and tell you what's actually going on. If your sig is right, you've guot Mandrake 9.1 installed. I have found that the files are in a predictable place, for the most part. You'll find the same files (except the Linux-specific ones) in nearly the same places on whatever distro you use as well as the other *NIXs too. If you do this kind of examination, you'll be a "guru" yourself in much less time than you think. I bet that Trickykid, Jeremy, DrOzz, or any of the other "gurus" here (I should mention Freekygeek55 too, actually) probably think that they are still noobs a lot of the time too, but I consider that they have got more licked than I do, by lightyears.
 
Old 05-05-2004, 03:22 AM   #22
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Thanks for infor Vectordrake. I will take your advice on board. At the moment I am trying to set up tripwire and a firewall. I think I am going to have to delay my exam again though. I am two thirds of the way through my 900 page Linux + book. Did a linux + virtual test and got 60% of my answers right. Way too low. When I chose to take Linux as my next exam, I expected 3 maybe 4 months before I was ready to take the exam. I've got the feeling it may take much longer and I have spent most evenings at the manual and my box. Hopefully in a month I'll take the exam.
 
Old 05-05-2004, 07:40 AM   #23
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Ever read RUTE? Its the real bible...

From the book
Quote:
The LPI and RHCE are two certifications that introduce you to LINUX. This book covers far more than both these two certifications in most places, but occasionally leaves out minor items as an exercise. It certainly covers in excess of what you need to know to pass both these certifications.
Its 2/3 the size of your book so less reading. LOL. You should have it too (free download or purchase from Amazon, etc). Its lives up to its claims.
 
Old 05-05-2004, 05:13 PM   #24
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Downloading now. Will read when I get through my manual. Thanks.
 
Old 05-05-2004, 08:31 PM   #25
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i guess if you understand the answers to whatever questions you have, thats a great feeling.
 
  


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