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Old 01-20-2014, 02:27 PM   #1
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How do people windup with "laptops" but no CD\DVD-RW? [mixed with rant]


I can understand if it's to small or cheep but next no USB! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%2...n_every_minute

I can't imagine how easy Linux could be if we didn't have to keep reaching? http://www.prisonexp.org/ (Respect my authority!)

http://www.addictinginfo.org/wp-cont...conomics_1.jpg

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Old 01-20-2014, 02:38 PM   #2
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I don't have a CD/DVD drive built into my EEE or my desktop and I don't miss it. I have a USB CD/DVD/variousRW for ripping CDs and DVDs to hard drive but other than that I don't use it. If I could buy music in FLAC and movies as Linux-playable files I could own I'd not need an optical drive at all.
USB, on the other hand, I use to boot, back up and exchange data with friends (never underestimate the bandwidth of a bloke with a USB stick).
I find my iPad next to useless due to its inability to just read from a USB stick -- if it could do that I'd be using it as a digital photo frame rather than occasionally bringing it out to look at it and wonder what to do with it.
 
Old 01-20-2014, 02:45 PM   #3
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I can understand if it's to small or cheep but next is more without USB! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%2...n_every_minute

I can't imagine how easy Linux could be if we didn't have to keep reaching? http://www.prisonexp.org/ (Respect my authority!)

http://www.addictinginfo.org/wp-cont...conomics_1.jpg
Dude, work on your English composition. That was painful to read. "Next is more"?
 
Old 01-20-2014, 03:00 PM   #4
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... CD/DVD/variousRW for ripping CDs and DVDs to hard drive ...
Oops, I will edit in the RW part...
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Dude, work on your English composition. That was painful to read. "Next is more"?
LOL (dude) the definition expands... I will continue to work on it if you work on thinking?

Edit: oh, I see the double words now now... thought you were saying next: did not imply more, could have been more clear next time dude.

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Old 01-20-2014, 03:04 PM   #5
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Oops, I will edit in the RW part...
I haven't used the [whatever]RW[whatever] bit for years. I consider optical drives of the type in a home PC as useless for anything but reading pre-stamped discs.
I know USB sticks are unreliable but my experience of optical media is you often end up with a failed burn and even when you don't it may still be corrupt. They're also a lot slower to put data on than a USB stick.
 
Old 01-20-2014, 03:09 PM   #6
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I will continue to work on it if you work on thinking?
Not my responsibility. If I have to "think" in order to understand you, then the failure to communicate clearly is yours.

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Old 01-20-2014, 03:12 PM   #7
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My laptop has CD\DVD burning and I have an eternal Blu-ray burner. Haven't used windblow$ for a few years now but remember not being not able to mount old disks, in Linux it can take some tweaking but all my ancient data (by computer standers) is still there.
 
Old 01-20-2014, 03:15 PM   #8
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Not my responsibility. If I have to "think" in order to understand you, then the failure to communicate clearly is yours.
Do you understand all of written rocket science or what Enstine for e.g. wrote?
I put an edit (Edit:) but the other mistake is obviously of hot headness (me too\)or your an English teacher who can't stand mistakes?

Edit: again I'm use to it; there fixed it for u.
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I edit my posts

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Old 01-20-2014, 03:42 PM   #9
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$40 dollars a pop. Atom n270 processor. 2 gig ram. 30gig ide POS hard drive. No dvdrw or cdrw. But boots off sd and usb.
You remember me mentioning it in another thread. Also that I bought 3 of them.

Even car stereos are out now with out cdrom drives. Just usb and sd slots. I had to be careful looking for a new
stereo for my truck that was under 40 bucks. I guess I need to rip all my old cd stuff to flash to use that car
stereo.

Welcome to the Bic lighter era. The Zippo is bygone days. A few of my bikes still run chevy six cylinder points ignition though
instead of solid state.

P.S.: not a sucker. Just ancient.

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Old 01-20-2014, 03:43 PM   #10
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I no longer buy built-in CD/DVD drives. My netbook has no integrated drive, and neither does my desktop. Instead I use a USB CD/DVD drive. Why ?

1) Because I don't use the CD/DVD drive very often. I use it only for new OS installs and data backups, which happen around the same time.
2) I have found that built-in drives tend to break down faster. I'm not sure why this is, but it may be because it powers on and off with the system. Having a USB drive means it only powers on and off when I plug it in.
3) It is cheaper. I can use the USB drive on my desktop and may netbook, just not at the same time, which is not a problem at all.

I also have USB floppy drive, which I never use, but who knows, it might come in handy sometime.
 
Old 01-20-2014, 03:47 PM   #11
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1) Because I don't use the CD/DVD drive very often. I use it only for new OS installs and data backups, which happen around the same time.
May I ask why you don't use USB stick for installs? Or for backup for that matter?
I, too have a USB floppy drive but sadly I threw my disks away in a move.
 
Old 01-20-2014, 04:41 PM   #12
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I'm not completely opposed to the idea (love my Pi) but worry that it's another form of control, not that if USB\SD\* goes Linux users wont\haven't kept up.

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Old 01-20-2014, 04:46 PM   #13
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May I ask why you don't use USB stick for installs? Or for backup for that matter?
I, too have a USB floppy drive but sadly I threw my disks away in a move.
Because USB sticks are probably the best means of malware transport/infection:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...at-4175489606/
Also because I like to keep my Slackware install disk around in case I need to fix something that I mess up.
And because I don't trust USB sticks as means of backing up data. They are unreliable, and I've noticed that the filesystem becomes corrupted over time.

I still have plenty of floppies. I doubt I'll even use them.

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Old 01-21-2014, 02:55 AM   #14
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When I buy a computer, if I see one without a disc drive I move on to the next machine on display. Everyone's uses and preferences are different, but for me it is this way:
1) One set of back-up files is on a portable hard-drive and the other set is on discs. I feel safer knowing I have at least one set on a medium that cannot be erased by sun flares. Ha, ha.
2) I buy music and movies on disc and sometimes using the computer can be more convenient than the CD/DVD player and television combination.
3) I find an installation disc very useful.
 
Old 01-21-2014, 04:32 AM   #15
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My desktop systems have optical drives but to be honest other than the very occasional burning of a DVD as boot media for servers or converting a movie I hardly use them.

Laptop doesn't have one but I have an external that I'll carry in my gear bag if I think I'll need it.

There's a 16Gb USB key on my car keys and I've a Swiss Army USB on my belt and these see much more action than any spinner media.
 
  


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