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I think all of the Star Wars movies, new and old, are pretty much the same. Nothing special, but somwhat entertaining in their own way. The new ones continue in that tradition and give two hours of moving pictures. I can't see why people say the new ones are so bad.
The problem, in essence, is that both the audiences and the critics condemned the new movies even before they were released. Supid, but very human. If The Beatles were to make a new album, it would probably suffer the same fate.
Last edited by henrikanttonen; 05-19-2005 at 11:44 AM.
henrikanttonen has great points. Am I the only one who actually likes the new movies better then the old ones?. I'm a big Star Wars fan and, even though I know the brilliance of the old movies and consider as a classic, the new ones features great effects, really nice battle scenes and great environments.
Again, the old ones are great, but it's more like... Oldie Superman: A great classic old movie.
And what was wrong with the old movies, is just as wrong with the new ones: Linear plot, cheesy acting, etc. Still great, nonetheless
I'm actually waiting to see this one, I've been so disappointed by the last two. (This coming from a guy who setup his entire Novell network in '95 using TheForce, Jedi, Yoda... as server names.)
Oh, and to answer the question of one of the earlier posters, Star Wars had something the newer movies don't It was low-tech. In other words, it looked like the galaxy had gone to hell, and people were struggling. There were no shiny CGI figures. As such, except for the poor quality of the old film, it looks as modern today as it did when I saw it at the Chinese Theater in '77.
By contrast, The Phantom Menace, with its reliance on CGI already looks dated.
Originally posted by pevelius i donīt mean to offend, but your signature explains a lot
I'm not offended, but I completely fail to see the relevance. Maybe I'm not offended just because of that. Perhaps you want to explain, perhaps you don't?
At the time the originals came out they weren't low-tech at all. Quite the opposite. ILM created most of the effects from nothing so it was a milestone in effect technology. The revelation that you can move the camera instead of the models revolutionised the industry.
But saying all that, I don't care what the effects are. I don't care if ep 1 looks dated already. I care for the story. And the story has stayed pretty much the same and George Lucas isn't much of a writer as far as writing technique go. Sure, the story has interesting points to it, but they would've been told a lot better if he had just written a synopsis or a treatment and then hired a scriptwriter. Effects are stupid, no matter how modern and cool they are. I go for the story. And all of the stories entertain me, even if they don't offer anything more.
I just saw it, and I can tell everyone who was disappointed with the last two (I was, too) that the 3rd one is 100% AWESOME!!
Indeed,
As a huge star wars fan i've been waiting 'my whole life' for this conclusion, the very ending of ep3 makes worth the entire movie, besides the awesome battle scenes and such
I gotta disagree with the comment that the original 3 Star Wars (episodes 4, 5, 6) were lame. In every way they are far superior IMO than Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones (both of which totally sucked, unless all you cared about was special effects. The weakness with both of them was that they tried too hard to be all things to all people, and threw in stupid characters (JarJar) in an attempt to have some comedy and/or appeal to kids, an idiotic love interest to appeal to the romance audience, fight scenes to attract the action crowd, etc, etc. Anything that tries to be all things to all people is guaranteed to fail - who wants to go to a Sci-Fi/Action/Romance/Childrens/Comedy flick?) Anyway I think the originals were just better stories, and even today I think the effects are top notch.
I'd ask this question, if Lucas had actually done the movies in chronological order (meaning Phantom Menace was first), would there have been even one sequel, let alone 5? I'd say No Way - the proverbial snowball in Hell would be more likely. If the original movies weren't as awesome as they are, these new episodes (1-3) never would have happened. Just my 2 cents -- J.W.
with the extreme ticket cost (and the even worse offense of actually playing television advertisements before the movie), a movie has to be VERY compelling to justify a theater viewing - LOTR trilogy being the only recent ones to come to mind.
episode 1 was so incredibly horrible that the presumption is whatever follows from the same creators doesn't cut it.....
I was disappointed. I don't understand why people think this one is so much better then Phantom and Clones. It was darker sure, lot's of death everywhere. But the acting, plot and whatnot was equally (if not more) shitty.
Originally posted by Haiyadragon I was disappointed. I don't understand why people think this one is so much better then Phantom and Clones. It was darker sure, lot's of death everywhere. But the acting, plot and whatnot was equally (if not more) shitty.
I disagree completely. The dialogue in III was far superior than I & II. Ian McDiarmid, especially, was outstanding. The discourses between he and Anakin were stellar.
Bear in mind that this isn't Shakespeare, folks. As modern cinema goes, this was leaps and bounds better than the first two.
NOT digitizing 3PO also helped. He really killed EpII. He was back to old form. Simple.
And R2 was at his best in III, bar none.
And might I add that Ewan McGregor was brilliant. Every bit as good as Alec was, if not better.
UUUGHH JARJAR!!! he made a good career move this time and only appeared twice and neither of those times did he speak, WHOO!!
no need to watch the last 15 minutes of the movie.. at all.. it only leads up to what we all already know happens.
that said, it sucked significantly less.. yoda fighting is awesome, although the 3d rendering always pisses me off because I can always see the difference.
I like the redesign of darth vader even though it was there for 2 minutes and it's the last you ever see of him.
I GOT IN FOR FREE, BITCHES!!
anyway.. let's see if george dies before making 7 through 9, or alternately, doesn't even bother.
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