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With FUN what are you implying? EU residents take this stuff more seriously then we do here in the USofA. So do their leader which is lacking here in the US0fA also.
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It's good news that they are taking note but Class action suits really need to brought up to all the major companies that volunteered data to the NSA (Google, Yahoo, etc)
And really something needs to be done to curb the Government programs themselves (and it isn't just the USA that is guilty of it)
I wasn't sure that it would be amusing, effective, or controversial.
It actually might be a combination of all of those, as well as other adjectives.
I do agree that the topic is becoming more serious and ... well ...
It sort of parallels that thread about the man suing Google for using his image in an advertisement without his knowledge of having been taped and without his consent.
Everything Big Brother does is in the name of security, their security.
Yeah ... well I used to work making TELCO switches so I've long been in the arena where we've had to make circuitry and software to allow for Law Enforcement Surveillance. Further, we've also had to make it such that calls can be trace-able for safety, a'la 911, so it sort of goes both ways. The person in dire need who couldn't get help will certainly do two things (1) sue the establishment when they couldn't get timely help and (2) pray direly even though they're an agnostic or atheist.
I do agree, using the capability to gather extremely bulk, large data under the couch of national security is very much overdoing it. A lot of that is the world we live in. I really have no answers for that.
Yeah ... well I used to work making TELCO switches so I've long been in the arena where we've had to make circuitry and software to allow for Law Enforcement Surveillance. Further, we've also had to make it such that calls can be trace-able for safety, a'la 911, so it sort of goes both ways. The person in dire need who couldn't get help will certainly do two things (1) wish they could sue the establishment when they couldn't get timely help and (2) pray direly even though they're an agnostic or atheist.
I do agree, using the capability to gather extremely bulk, large data under the couch of national security is very much overdoing it. A lot of that is the world we live in. I really have no answers for that.
Fixed it for ya.
Courts already rules that police are not responsible for your well being or protection. Their only obligation is to uphold the law. And some time they don't do that very well either. As for the rest of the first responders I'm sure any court would rull in their favor too.
when the few images i posted ( with MY!!! copyright on them )
and my image for the user
and some of my sisters images in posts
STARTED to REQUIRE Malicious sites to install third party cookies
JUST TO VIEW MY OWN IMAGES!!!!!!!!!
and they were requiring me to allow THIRD PARTIES to run scripts ON MY HARDWARE !!!!!!
just to view MY OWN PAGE !!!!!
i deleted everything
and my last post was
" go take a dry corncob and shove it !!!! where the sun don't shine !!!!
Once again, "I am not the slightest bit surprised by this." Indeed, I welcome it as "a guest who has been much too tardy in showing-up at this party."
For the last dozen years or so, we've all been supping at the "world-wide web party," basking in the benefits of this grand new telecommunications network but without (y-e-t ...) soberly considering its negative implications. Why? Because, well, because "nothing bad has happened y-e-t."
Eat, Drink, and Be Merry.
Fortunately, it turns out that there are people in this world who realize that there are very-important (international!) laws that have yet to be written. That there are fundamental legal principles, as-yet either nonexistent or undeveloped, which must be hammered out. That "there is 'a balance to be struck,'" but that we are now "dangerously out-of-balance." And finally, that there is "a clear and present danger" to our world(!) society ... the likes of which human society has never before known, because the things that we can do today were never before possible in all of human history.
I submit that we, first of all, should not "act surprised" at this. Instead, we(of the profession of data-processing ...) should be "first to the fight" in helping to define and to shape the course of future jurisprudence.
"How, indeed?" can we preserve for ourselves (and, for our posterity ...) the obvious benefits of this new Internet technology, without exposing our society to grievous risks at the hands of those pure-evil people among us who ... well ... who are psychopaths? It turns out that this is not an easy problem. "There is no," I think, "'bright-line rule' solution."
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Fixed it for ya.
Courts already rules that police are not responsible for your well being or protection. Their only obligation is to uphold the law. And some time they don't do that very well either. As for the rest of the first responders I'm sure any court would rull in their favor too.
That is a good sign we need to trash the current system and start anew. I am personally a big believer in the concept of natural law.
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So you believe that only the strong should survive......
Umm no. I believe that law should be based on human morals and law should designed to prevent eachother from hurting eachother
but a lot of laws simple need to be removed.
(Although I think that if "less" of the stupid people continued on in society, we wouldn't be
in such a mess now. Sorry but it's true. Stupid people have put us into the position we are in now.)
The problem is instead of enforcing the laws already on the books they create new ones.
They feel this will fix the problem with not enforcing the ones already on the books.
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