Because Shiny Things Are Fun - The New New Windows v Linux Thread

So I got a new laptop (after giving my first t my nephew last “X-mas.”) It's refurbished\cheep and came with win7pro; almost a week now and I have 8 other operating systems installed along side or virtual machines(VMs)… more than likely a coincidence that the win10 “free” upgrade popped up just after installing GRUB? For now (still with its original harddrve) I will try them out, 10 soon, have 8.1 in a VM it's faster than 7 but still too slow out of the box (no pun or fun!) Over all experiences point to any number of distros: faster, safer-ish, liberating and more stable off the bat. Planning an SSD with no winblow$!

M$ Windows is a major piece of sh*t! It should be totally obliterated from the face of the earth.

Actually Windows is a fine OS it's obviously not for you though.

It sucks as much as the world, control is only good for learning!

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Originally Posted by Garyluvslinux M$ Windows is a major piece of sh*t! It should be totally obliterated from the face of the earth.

Replace "Windows" with "Metro", "NTFS", "registry", and "Windows 'Security Essentials'" and that's more or less where I stand. Windows can be fixed, but Micro$oft is too lazy to update 20 year old software. Quite a lot could be fixed by giving Windows the ability to use a journaled filesystem (such as ext4). More could be fixed by rethinking the registry to make it less fallible and prone to corruption/misinformation. A good security module baked into the kernel could solve a lot of issues. Bringing the desktop to the phone instead of the phone to the desktop. All the little things are just wrong and I guarantee they will never be fixed.

Oh, and the "audits"...my gosh don't get me started...
http://www.cio.com/article/2452991/m...re-audits.html
Thought "activation" was supposed to take care of that. Doughheads.

I really hope Canonical doesn't fall into this pitfall.

Originally Posted by Ihatewindows522 Replace "Windows" with "Metro", "NTFS", "registry", and "Windows 'Security Essentials'" and that's more or less where I stand. Windows can be fixed, but Micro$oft is too lazy to update 20 year old software. Quite a lot could be fixed by giving Windows the ability to use a journaled filesystem (such as ext4). More could be fixed by rethinking the registry to make it less fallible and prone to corruption/misinformation. A good security module baked into the kernel could solve a lot of issues. Bringing the desktop to the phone instead of the phone to the desktop. All the little things are just wrong and I guarantee they will never be fixed. Oh, and the "audits"...my gosh don't get me started... http://www.cio.com/article/2452991/m...re-audits.html Thought "activation" was supposed to take care of that. Doughheads. I really hope Canonical doesn't fall into this pitfall.

microsoft is a multi-billion dollar company. the changes you are proposing would result in million$ (billion$) of r&d. windows is already 80% of the desktop market. why go thru all that wasted time money and effort just to win an insignificant 5% more ?

Originally Posted by schneidz microsoft is a multi-billion dollar company. the changes you are proposing would result in million$ (billion$) of r&d. windows is already 80% of the desktop market. why go thru all that wasted time money and effort just to win an insignificant 5% more ?

Not to mention that some of us that already use something else most likely would not switch to them even if they made those changes. I know I wouldn't use windoze even if it was free.

Originally Posted by schneidz microsoft is a multi-billion dollar company. the changes you are proposing would result in million$ (billion$) of r&d. windows is already 80% of the desktop market. why go thru all that wasted time money and effort just to win an insignificant 5% more ?

And that's more or less the conclusion I came to, then I ditched Windows completely and only use Linux (or really anything that's not Windows).

A GPL makes more (and pun.)

Originally Posted by dalek Not to mention that some of us that already use something else most likely would not switch to them even if they made those changes. I know I wouldn't use windoze even if it was free.

meetoo, supposedly they have multi-desktop now but i have yet to check it out. i guess i will play around with it in a few years when i buy a new pc but i will likely reformat and install fedora after a few days.

Originally Posted by schneidz meetoo, supposedly they have multi-desktop now but i have yet to check it out. i guess i will play around with it in a few years when i buy a new pc but i will likely reformat and install fedora after a few days.

I've never bought anything windoze. I build my own puters so that I don't have to pay for it that way either. Basically, I have zero use for windoze. If Microsoft closed its doors tomorrow, I'd hear about it on the news I guess.

An anti-monopoly law would be nice! But, what would .gov++ do?

Originally Posted by Ihatewindows522 Replace "Windows" with "Metro", "NTFS", "registry", and "Windows 'Security Essentials'" and that's more or less where I stand. Windows can be fixed, but Micro$oft is too lazy to update 20 year old software. Quite a lot could be fixed by giving Windows the ability to use a journaled filesystem (such as ext4). More could be fixed by rethinking the registry to make it less fallible and prone to corruption/misinformation. A good security module baked into the kernel could solve a lot of issues. Bringing the desktop to the phone instead of the phone to the desktop. All the little things are just wrong and I guarantee they will never be fixed. Oh, and the "audits"...my gosh don't get me started... http://www.cio.com/article/2452991/m...re-audits.html Thought "activation" was supposed to take care of that. Doughheads. I really hope Canonical doesn't fall into this pitfall.

After the 8/10 fiasco, I don't think there is any fixing Windows

Originally Posted by Ihatewindows522 Quite a lot could be fixed by giving Windows the ability to use a journaled filesystem (such as ext4).

NTFS is a journaling filesystem.

Originally Posted by TobiSGD NTFS is a journaling filesystem.

Ah, my bad. But, wait...why do Windows users need to defrag so often?? I got the impression Linux didn't need it because of FS journaling. And indexing? Why?? Either way, there is a major performance difference between NTFS and ext4. There's nothing stopping Microsoft from adopting a superior filesystem except willpower. And of course that won't happen until they start losing money.

I like how a friend of mine put it:
http://s27.postimg.org/j5rww0f7n/Scr...1_09_17_01.jpg

Just replace IE with Windows and Firefox with Linux. It's just how Microsoft rolls. Unfortunately.