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Old 02-26-2003, 11:43 AM   #1
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Attention Austin, TX residents!!!


http://www.cs.utexas.edu/home/news/a.../stallman.html

Visit the above.
See you there.
 
Old 02-26-2003, 01:04 PM   #2
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Aaawww DAMMIT Jeff I have a meeting until 5 that day! I'll try to get out early.. but I'm sure others will be interested in the content.. please post the gist of it here.
Thanks,
John
 
Old 02-26-2003, 01:41 PM   #3
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I'll be there...
 
Old 02-26-2003, 08:17 PM   #4
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I'll see if I can get pictures of RS...

...with a flower up his nose....
Too bad you can't make it, John.
For a little variety, I'm putting Slack-8.1 on an old 586 to config as a firewall. I've been having fun beating up this old machine....

If I can recall them all, I've been through: Caldera, Vector, Debian, RedHat, Gentoo, Yoper, ClarkConnect, Smoothwall, Slackware, LFS, and Crux (Almost with the Crux...)

That's all I can remember. Also, since Roadrunner went up to $47 this month, I'm taking advantage of that $29 SBC/Yahoo DSL offer. I'll be live 3/5/2003.

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Old 02-26-2003, 08:20 PM   #5
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I'd love to go but unfortunately work requires I stay til 5pm...
 
Old 02-27-2003, 09:50 AM   #6
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Yeah SBC/Yahoo's been pretty good.. they are linux-friendy. My only reservation is that you don't get any real webspace.. only this "briefcase & photos" crap. The URL of every file you store changes dynamically, so you can't have html with embedded pictures unless you pay extra. But generally I am grateful for the DSL and the fact that I can run it with linux
 
Old 02-27-2003, 10:44 AM   #7
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WHAT?!?!?

The lady told me you get 15Mb of webspace!!!
Also there's a 60Mb briefcase.
What's up with the webspace? It's not real?

If she was talking about Geoshitties, somebody's going to get hurt.
 
Old 02-27-2003, 11:14 AM   #8
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Ha - Let me know when you find it.. all roads lead to Geosh-- (LOL) with the deal I got. The cheapest web package geocities has is around $9 a month, and I spent well over $9 in effort trying to hack around the stupidass briefcase thing.. Since you are a java whiz you will at least be able to make your very plain web pages pop out of the yahoo! frames. Seriously, if you get 15 megs, let me know and I will put in a request for the same.

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Old 03-03-2003, 08:40 AM   #9
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Talking Today's the day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Be there and be square!!!!
 
Old 03-05-2003, 11:47 PM   #10
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how was it?

i would like to go there, but couldn't find a friend to go with..
we were having tests..

 
Old 03-06-2003, 03:57 AM   #11
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I know what you mean......

I've got 2 more this week.....
Anyway, Stallman basically described the events in his life leading up to the formation of the FSF. He was frustrated with proprietary software in particular because: 1) Since he was from an academic background where everything was shared, and 2) He had the ability to modify any software to better suit his needs, he formed the opinion that proprietary (can't get the source) software impedes the progress of mankind, and must therefore be eliminated.
He went on to lay out his political platform and ask the members of the audience to do a few simple things: 1) Whenever you say "Linux", you should actually be saying "GNU/Linux" since the FSF had GNU going while Torwalds was still an undergrad. He said that most of the programs in any GNU/Linux system were made by FSF. 2) Understand the diference between Open Source and Free Software. It's a political thing. Open Source is pretty non-political, while FSF is VERY political.
One thing that happened was pretty funny. Stallman was talking about how most of the GNU OS was built, but the HURD kernel was far from being usable by the masses. Then some people took an early Linux kernel and built it into the GNU OS. Torwalds' little invention was the last part of the OS to be finished, and that feat carried Stallman and the FSF across the glorious finish line! At this point, an auditorium full of C.S. PhD's and grad students were openly laughing a Stallmans audacity! Stallman just looked at us for awhile, like "Y'all aren't buying this are you?"
There were also a couple of funnies related to vi & emacs.
Anyway, he wants more credit for the FSF for it's role in developing the OS you're using right now. I guess he feels that if WE start saying "GNU/Linux" then the guys at Forbes and the Wall Street Journal will start saying it, too, and his politics and organization will recieve more attention.
He had some scary stuff to say about the direction that the "powers that be" want to take personal computing. Pretty paranoid stuff, I'll try to never buy on of those machines he was talking about---a computer that does the will of its creator, not its owner. Like a proprietary desktop --> no tinkering under the hood.
All in all it was a very worthwhile lecture. I think Stallman has a lot of great ideas, and I hope this society can move towards some of his ideals. Unfortunately, I have ZERO faith in the American political system, and only a little faith in my fellow Americans. Stallman's talking about a technological Utopia, and it's a long way off.
 
  


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