1.) I can't listen to audio at all! My sound card, AudioPCI worked fine with Test 2 and below, and with test 3 the test sound played perfectly but all sounds upon logging into KDE sound distorted and fuzzy. Any idea on whats wrong?

2.) Is there a way to move that "Computer" icon to KDE?

3.) If I go back to FC1 but install Kernel 2.6.x, would that make all programs in FC1 not work because they would have been installed and built on the old kernel?

4.) I get SELinux errors when I am using APT trying to do a dist-upgrade, is there a fix?

5.) Finally, FC1 used over 600MB of RAM when I was running KDE, out of my 768MB total. Is there a way to cut down on what runs with KDE and speed it up a bit? Is there a list of things I can safely disable? Thanks!

ill take a stab at #3 first.

not totally. you probably will encounter some issues with sound, and maybe some other stuff, but actual programs won't really know the difference.

the reason you might have trouble with sound is that oss is depreciated and alsa is now the standard in 2.6. just be careful of the options you choose when you compile it, and you should be ok. ive done it on slackware 9.1 with very little trouble, but slack 9.1 was meant to be compatible with the 2.6 kernel.

im not really a big redhat guy anymore, but i think in the past ive seen rpm's to do something like upgrade to 2.6. if so then someone else would have already done the work for you. good luck.

im not sure what to tell you for 1 or 4, but for 2 the short answer is no. that icon is coming from nautilus, which is like explorer is in windows. it does the interface, the desktop icons, and the file browser. there might be some way to run nautilus on kde but it wouldn't be worth it. you might want to try gnome. i was a pretty avid kde fan until gnome 2.4, but then i went to gnome, and i love it. and 2.6 is even better. the spatial browsing is really cool if you use the file manager a lot.

and for 5. check a system monitor. there might be something built into kde (i don't remember) and if nothing else run "top" from the command line (hit q to exit) look at what is using so much memory. if you see any one program hogging it a lot, then post it in here so we can tell you how to cut it down. i put the memory monitor on for fun and noticed that it stays a bit higher than i expected. thats one thing that i like a lot better with slackware, it used a lot less system resources. its part of the price you pay to have the nice stuff with fedora like auto mount and stuff.

If I post the entire contents of whats running, can you guys tell me whats necessary and how to disable whats not? Is there a website with a list of these things, or maybe the equivelant of "msconfig" like in Windows? I don't mind sacrificing unecessary stuff like automount, those kinds of things mean nothing to me. But if there is a site that lists these things and their relevance, that would save you guys the trouble of explaining it.

I especially need help with my sound issue.

What do you feel are the best features of Gnome that compare with KDE 3.2? I switched from Gnome to KDE3.2 once it was released because KDE3.2 in my opinion was the most amazing KDE release yet, alot has changed (For the better). Which one is faster? I may install Gnome if you guys convince me.

Thanks again!

kde 3.2 is drastically better. its faster and features are more even. it has less clutter. so i do see why you went to it. i tried it for a while but went back to gnome.

to me gnome is more streamlined and professional. im a bit osx fan and gnome just seems to suit me better. i like having less choice but the choices are better. kde is certainly more full featured and complete. the catch is i do a lot of stuff from the command line that kde will do with the gui. to me a DE should be out of the way, show my windows, make them look pretty and be efficient. i think a lot of people like kde becauase its better at things i do from the command line. if you know nothing about fstab and ifconfig and chmod, you can use kde and do everything you need. or at least get a lot closer to it.

one big plus in gnome now is the spatial browsing. its very hard to get used to. i remember hating windows 95 without IE4 installed because it had a more spatial file manager. but thats because it wasn't well executed. the gnome spatial is almost as good as it was on older mac versions. it still needs some polish but i think it will be pretty near perfect in teh next gnome version.

i also like gnome apps better. rhythmbox, gaim, evolution, and some others. and the terminal seems better to me. the term is a great example of gnome vs kde. the kde term has a TON more features. but the gnome terminal does what i want, and does it elegantly. (tabbed, translucent, easy keyboard shortcuts to switch tabs) as for speed i think with kde 3.2 there isn't much difference. before that there was. and gnome 2.6 is a little faster, but you probably won't notice.

for services go to System Settings > Server Settings > Services.

there you can start and stop services, and it will give a brief discription. if you uncheck somethign and hit save it will not start next time

more than likely all you have to have is iptables, network, and syslog. leave on cups if you do printing, and kudzu for the redhat hardware stuff. read the description before you turn anything off though.

Alright, I'll do that when I get home. I will check that out and ask some advice.

Now, excuse my ignorance but what is spatial browsing? I really don't know what you're talking about.

Those Gnome apps work in KDE, don't they? You mentioned Rhythmbox and while I think it is great, it doesn't do MP3's which I have alot of. Even after the MP3 and Gstreamer plugins/patches, MP3's still aren't supported. While the intention of RB was great, I feel it fell short on the support area and I just use XMMS now for MP3's.

Thanks!

I guess everything is solved, except for SELinux causing APT errors and the overall crapiness of my distorted sound system.

rhythmbox does play mp3s. its just turned off like xmms is, and is a little harder to fix. i think all i had to do was use freshrpms and reinstall RB and gstreamer.

its something weird. if you have apt installed, just remove and then install gstreamer, RB, lib3id, and mad. i think thats all you need. theres a thread around here about it. its kinda a pain.

the gnome apps do work in kde, and kde apps work in gnome. but when you run stuff that isn't really native, it will slow things down some.

spatial browsing is what older macs used, and to an extent windows 95. what we are more familiar with from current explorer, finder, knonquerer, and nautilus up to 2.6 is browser style file management. with the browser style you typically have a tree on the left hand side, and there is only one window. in that window you have back, forward, and up buttons to move around.

in spatial browsing each folder is its own window. as i said it seems really wierd. in the spatial browser i could open my home folder, then open my music folder, then open a led zepplin folder. at which point im going to have 3 windows on my screen. instead of dragging stuff to a folder in the tree view on the left hand side, i drag it to the appropriate window. part of the idea is that a folder stays the way you put it. so if my music folder has a ton of sub folders, i might make it really big, and put the stuff in a certain order. if i only have 1 folder in the led zepplin folder, i might make it small. when you close everything and open them back up, the music folder is still big, and the way you left it, and the led zepplin folder is still small. the idea is that things are more kinetic and tangible. its supposed to make it easier for people who are new to computers, but i think that even as a more experienced user, it can be much more efficient. search for it at osnews.com. there have been a couple of articles about spatial browsing in general, and the way it is implemented in gnome 2.6. the spatial browsing was kinda the cornerstone of gnome 2.6, so most reviews of it talk about it at length

Thanks i will try the RB thing and see, I do know that I did that with FC1 and installed those packages but it said "unable to create mad element" when I tried to play an MP3.

Anyone else about my other issues? Especially the sound? Thanks!

I was getting that same "Mad" error when I tried to get Rhythmbox to work. Here's a post that I created regarding getting it to work. After all the headaches of getting it to work, I never use it I hope you can get XMMS to work as it's currently the best MP3 player on linux, IMHO.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=159469

Hope it helps.

- Todd