Originally Posted by EDDY1
That's a better way of saying, but that's what I was trying to tell op.
I myself have no desire now to install MP240 unless I put it on my wheezy machine, not trying to push squeeze to the limit.
I guess I just have a thing about peoples perception of Ubuntu. Ubuntu does a good many things but folks think of it as just an "improvement" of Debian.
The vast majority of those "improvements" are straight from the Debian repos. They are, it is true, a long way from being in the Debian stable repos. On the other hand, Debian stable is stable. Much more stable than the Ubuntu LTS releases, let alone the "regular" releases.
Don't get me wrong about Ubuntu. I admire it greatly, used it a long time as my "main" OS. Debian I just keep on here to see what all the fuss about configuring it was. Couldn't see the problem really and so when they "improved" Ubuntu to the point that it really did not run well on my box I just dropped it for Debian.
Ubuntu has a very slightly easier to understand repo system, slightly better font rendering and plymouth that excludes a number of folks with fairly new hardware from using it.
I can boot their LTS (10.04), which is basically their version of Squeeze (based on Squeeze when it was Debian testing). It takes a long time and the bugger will not shut down. You can't file a bug tht gets attention because they want the boot logs. The boot logs are the responsibility of plymouth.d. One thing is does not do on my box is right any logs.
Debian testing, my main OS now, is more stable than Ubuntu (any version), does not need Alt+SysRq+b to shut it down and with the Liquorix kernel is running the same kernel as Ubuntu 11.04.
When folks want Debian to do things that the newest Ubuntu is doing they should be running Sid and they would be slightly ahead.
I now just keep Ubuntu pre-release on my box for entertainment. Wouldn't dream of doing serious work on it or any other version of Ubuntu because you just can't quite trust it.
Somewhat sorry for the rant. Thought I should explain that I was just trying to make things clear and got carried away.