how to change month names?

Roman Calin · 06-05-2016, 03:35 AM

Hello

how to change month names, displayed buy calendar in the top bar, and in Evolution 3.12.9?

I mean where are the file with month names and month shortcuts?

Gnome 3.14.1
Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie) 64-bit

Roman Calin

ondoho · 06-05-2016, 05:29 AM

They are probably defined by locale.
why do you need to change them?
what are they now, and what do you want them to be?
maybe you can start evolution with a different locale, or use a different local altogether.

Roman Calin · 06-05-2016, 06:12 AM

They are exactly as they must be for the language i choose for OS

But i learning a foreign language and i want the month names and day names to be from other language without changing OS language

Roman Calin

ondoho · 06-09-2016, 12:33 PM

ok.
you can start the application in question with e.g.

Code:

LANG=hi_IN gsimplecal

that would show a calendar in hindi (i think).
but you also have to have the locale installed, i believe one does that with

Code:

locale-gen

but first you have to edit /etc/locale.gen and uncomment the locale you want to use.

Roman Calin · 06-10-2016, 10:35 AM

at: nano /etc/locale.gen

i receive these:

# This file lists locales that you wish to have built. You can find a list
# of valid supported locales at /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED, and you can add
# user defined locales to /usr/local/share/i18n/SUPPORTED. If you change
# this file, you need to rerun locale-gen.

# aa_DJ ISO-8859-1
# aa_DJ.UTF-8 UTF-8
# aa_ER UTF-8
# aa_ER@saaho UTF-8
# aa_ET UTF-8
# af_ZA ISO-8859-1
# af_ZA.UTF-8 UTF-8
# ak_GH UTF-8
# am_ET UTF-8
# an_ES ISO-8859-15
# an_ES.UTF-8 UTF-8
# anp_IN UTF-8
# ar_AE ISO-8859-6
# ar_AE.UTF-8 UTF-8
....

At

i receive these:

GNU nano 2.2.6 Fişier: /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED

aa_DJ.UTF-8 UTF-8
aa_DJ ISO-8859-1
aa_ER UTF-8
aa_ER@saaho UTF-8
aa_ET UTF-8
af_ZA.UTF-8 UTF-8
af_ZA ISO-8859-1
ak_GH UTF-8
am_ET UTF-8
an_ES.UTF-8 UTF-8
an_ES ISO-8859-15
anp_IN UTF-8
ar_AE.UTF-8 UTF-8
ar_AE ISO-8859-6
ar_BH.UTF-8 UTF-8
ar_BH ISO-8859-6
ar_DZ.UTF-8 UTF-8
ar_DZ ISO-8859-6
ar_EG.UTF-8 UTF-8
ar_EG ISO-8859-6
ar_IN UTF-8
...

At: /usr/local/share/i18n/SUPPORTED

is empty screen.

Thanks for that information!

But a-em more interested in some file where will be wright something like these:

January
February
March
April
May
Juno
July
August
September
October
November

So i can change it to something like these:

Janus
februo
Mars
aperire
Maia
Juno
Julius
Augustus
septem
octo
novem

Roman Calin

ondoho · 06-11-2016, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman Calin

But a-em more interested in some file where will be wright something like these:

January
February
March
April
May
Juno
July
August
September
October
November

So i can change it to something like these:

Janus
februo
Mars
aperire
Maia
Juno
Julius
Augustus
septem
octo
novem

if you want that, you have to implement it yourself.
it will most probably never work with evolution.

the usual way to change languages is through locale, locale-gen.
i don't know how the internal workings of locale are; maybe you could create your own locale that just changes month names?

in any case, YOU have to start reading some documentation if you want to get anywhere with this:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
https://wiki.debian.org/Locale
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Locale

there is no readymade for your requirements.

linux puts you in the driver seat, but if you don't work the pedals, nothing will happen...

Roman Calin · 06-14-2016, 09:53 AM

Hi Ondoho

i locate my Os Language:

Code:

calin@debian:~$ locate ro_RO
/home/calin/.config/enchant/ro_RO.dic
/home/calin/.config/enchant/ro_RO.exc
/home/calin/.mozilla/firefox/kjbkpb30.default-1442133780807/extensions/ro-RO@www.archeus.ro/dictionaries/ro_RO-ante1993.aff
/home/calin/.mozilla/firefox/kjbkpb30.default-1442133780807/extensions/ro-RO@www.archeus.ro/dictionaries/ro_RO-ante1993.dic
/home/calin/Desktop/Old Iceweasel Data/lpa10f2v.default/extensions/ro-RO@www.archeus.ro/dictionaries/ro_RO-ante1993.aff
/home/calin/Desktop/Old Iceweasel Data/lpa10f2v.default/extensions/ro-RO@www.archeus.ro/dictionaries/ro_RO-ante1993.dic
/usr/share/hunspell/ro_RO.aff
/usr/share/hunspell/ro_RO.dic
/usr/share/i18n/locales/ro_RO
/usr/share/myspell/dicts/ro_RO.aff
/usr/share/myspell/dicts/ro_RO.dic
/usr/share/xfig/fig2dev/ro_RO.ps

i did change abreviations to montr names at: /usr/share/i18n/locales/ro_RO

below are original file text:

Code:

% Month names are not capitalized:
% ian feb mar apr mai iun iul aug sep oct nov dec
abmon   "<U0069><U0061><U006E>";"<U0066><U0065><U0062>";/
        "<U006D><U0061><U0072>";"<U0061><U0070><U0072>";/
        "<U006D><U0061><U0069>";"<U0069><U0075><U006E>";/
        "<U0069><U0075><U006C>";"<U0061><U0075><U0067>";/
        "<U0073><U0065><U0070>";"<U006F><U0063><U0074>";/
        "<U006E><U006F><U0076>";"<U0064><U0065><U0063>"
%
% Month names are _not_ capitalized in Romanian:
% ianuarie februarie martie
% aprilie mai iunie
% iulie august septembrie
% octombrie noiembrie decembrie
mon     "<U0069><U0061><U006E><U0075><U0061><U0072><U0069><U0065>";/
        "<U0066><U0065><U0062><U0072><U0075><U0061><U0072><U0069><U0065>";/
        "<U006D><U0061><U0072><U0074><U0069><U0065>";/
        "<U0061><U0070><U0072><U0069><U006C><U0069><U0065>";/
        "<U006D><U0061><U0069>";/
        "<U0069><U0075><U006E><U0069><U0065>";/
        "<U0069><U0075><U006C><U0069><U0065>";/
        "<U0061><U0075><U0067><U0075><U0073><U0074>";/
        "<U0073><U0065><U0070><U0074><U0065><U006D><U0062><U0072><U0069><U0065>";/
        "<U006F><U0063><U0074><U006F><U006D><U0062><U0072><U0069><U0065>";/
        "<U006E><U006F><U0069><U0065><U006D><U0062><U0072><U0069><U0065>";/
        "<U0064><U0065><U0063><U0065><U006D><U0062><U0072><U0069><U0065>"

But at restart nothing was changed! Maybe you know beter where are the file used buy sistem clock?

i take these info from

Quote:

https://wiki.debian.org/Locale#Manually

Manually

Edit the file /etc/locale.gen and add your locale settings (one set per line), e.g.:

de_DE.UTF-8 UTF-8
de_DE ISO-8859-1
de_DE@euro ISO-8859-15

The supported locales are listed in /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED.

Run the command locale-gen

Run the command locale -a to verify the list of available locales; note that the spellings change.

If you've upgraded to Lenny and you have leftover LANG=... content in /etc/environment, you should comment it out.
To use the new settings with your programs, log out and back in.

Roman Calin

luvr · 06-14-2016, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman Calin

But at restart nothing was changed! Maybe you know beter where are the file used buy sistem clock?

I don't remember exactly (and didn't take notes when I was experimenting with this), but you modified only the source file for the locale. You will subsequently have to "compile" it in order to actually use your modifications. I'm not sure if the locale-gen command will do that, or if some extra step is required, though.

Roman Calin · 06-14-2016, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvr

I don't remember exactly (and didn't take notes when I was experimenting with this), but you modified only the source file for the locale. You will subsequently have to "compile" it in order to actually use your modifications. I'm not sure if the locale-gen command will do that, or if some extra step is required, though.

Hi luvr!

locale-gen did help me and it all work fine. But i have another 2 questions:

a) where to find a program or a web site for encoding decoding letters and numbers to these and from these:

Code:

"<U0069><U0061><U006E>";"<U0066><U0065><U0062>";/
        "<U006D><U0061><U0072>";"<U0061><U0070><U0072>";/
        "<U006D><U0061><U0069>";"<U0069><U0075><U006E>";/
        "<U0069><U0075><U006C>";"<U0061><U0075><U0067>";/
        "<U0073><U0065><U0070>";"<U006F><U0063><U0074>";/
        "<U006E><U006F><U0076>";"<U0064><U0065><U0063>"

b) How to change year that is shown, i find out about old time counting, if to take these in count now is not year 2016 but 7516 from world flood, biblical i mean. so i want to change only year from 2016 to 7516 without changing day names associated with day numbers, i mean without changing internal calendar work.

Roman Calin

luvr · 06-14-2016, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman Calin

a) where to find a program or a web site for encoding decoding letters and numbers to these and from these

That's Unicode. You can use, e.g., the Unicode Character Table to encode or decode this.

Quote:

b) How to change year that is shown, i find out about old time counting, if to take these in count now is not year 2016 but 7516 from world flood, biblical i mean. so i want to change only year from 2016 to 7516 without changing day names associated with day numbers, i mean without changing internal calendar work.

Hmmm... That's a tough one. I'm not aware of a way to switch to a different calendar. Also, if I understand you correctly, you want your system to continue to use the common (so-called Gregorian) calendar, but you want it to show you the dates according to a different calendar. There may exist some utility to handle dates according to different calendars, but I'm afraid I cannot help you with this.

Roman Calin · 06-14-2016, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvr

That's Unicode. You can use, e.g., the Unicode Character Table to encode or decode this.

Thanks with that one!

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvr

Hmmm... That's a tough one. I'm not aware of a way to switch to a different calendar. Also, if I understand you correctly, you want your system to continue to use the common (so-called Gregorian) calendar, but you want it to show you the dates according to a different calendar. There may exist some utility to handle dates according to different calendars, but I'm afraid I cannot help you with this.

You understand me partially correctly, i want only year to be shown different, so far.

Also maybe you know some email or phone number of some administrator from: http://forums.debian.net/index.php?s...2538a6720794a3
i have an account, but i have some memory problems and can remember user name, to recover password, my Em@il is roman_calin@mail.md

luvr · 06-14-2016, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman Calin

i have an account, but i have some memory problems and can remember user name

You mean, you do remember your user name? If so, then just click Login, and on the next page, click "I forgot my password". You will then receice an e-mail explaining what to do next.

Roman Calin · 06-14-2016, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvr

You mean, you do remember your user name? If so, then just click Login, and on the next page, click "I forgot my password". You will then receice an e-mail explaining what to do next.

That was a typing error i can not remember my user name. to be more precisely i remember it,
but at password recovery i receive: The e-mail/username information submitted could not be found.

If i try to register another account i receive: The entered e-mail address is already in use.

Also is there a option to show in top bar after month name the year? PrtScn Attached.

luvr · 06-27-2016, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman Calin

That was a typing error i can not remember my user name. to be more precisely i remember it,
but at password recovery i receive: The e-mail/username information submitted could not be found.

I'm not sure, but perhaps you could type your e-mail address instead of your (apparently incorrect) username?

Quote:

Also is there a option to show in top bar after month name the year? PrtScn Attached.

You appear to be using GNOME 3 Shell. I'm not familiar with it, but to the best of my knowledge, it doesn't support all that many customisation options. You may get somewhere with the GNOME Tweak Tool, but even that is fairly limited, I believe. Other than that, there may be some kind of GNOME Shell Extension to provide what you are looking for. I'm afraid I cannot offer you any further help with this question, though.

luvr · 07-21-2016, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman Calin

at password recovery i receive: The e-mail/username information submitted could not be found.

Sorry for the belated reply, but your username there seems to be Calin Roman. Does that make sense?