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View Poll Results: Shell of the Year
bash 1,077 89.45%
tcsh 15 1.25%
csh 6 0.50%
sh 19 1.58%
zsh 47 3.90%
korn/ksh 22 1.83%
ash 2 0.17%
fish 16 1.33%
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Old 01-23-2007, 07:41 AM   #46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by digiot
Ever so slightly old, but still useful.

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/sh...l-differences/

I use/voted for bash. I've played with tcsh, ksh, zsh, and various posix-y shells like dash and 'sh's on BSD or from the Heirloom project and whatnot. Maybe some others. From playing with tcsh, I put

Code:
"\e[A": history-search-backward         # up-arrow; improve history recall
"\e[B": history-search-forward          # down-arrow; improve history recall
in my ~/.inputrc, and things like that, but I've never seen anything in any other shell to make me want to invest the time into another shell that I've invested in bash. Though, granted, if I'd started with ksh, the same would probably apply.
Invest some time getting to know KSH93 and you may well find you begin to prefer it over Bash. In many respects KSH was the father of modern shells as many of them incorporated ideas and features first seen in KSH. It hasn't seen a lot of recent active development because there hasn't been much need - KSH was ahead of its time I do wish David et.al. would get on the stick w/a bit of updating for the new millennium though but I'm sure he has more interesting things to do these days and has earned the right to kick back, relax, and put his feet up .....

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Old 01-23-2007, 10:36 AM   #47
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bash
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Old 01-23-2007, 12:35 PM   #48
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Considering bash is the default shell on every GNU/Linux I've seen, I would expect that to get the majority of votes by far. I voted for sh. Even though I don't use it much interactively, writing Bourne scripts helps with portability across different *nixes.
 
Old 01-23-2007, 02:46 PM   #49
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I'm getting the distinct feeling that there will be one vote for fish. Mine.
 
Old 01-23-2007, 05:20 PM   #50
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Question Doesn't Anyone Find This Archaic ?

This isn't an attack, so cool your jets. I've just started using Linux as my daily desktop work env. I've used Linux and BSD for years, but always as a black-box server-type appliance. Anyway, I've never really used BASH (or CSH) for real scripting, but today I needed something universal, so took the plunge.

All I needed was a little string manipulation, ie. strindex(), strcat(), strcpy(), etc. In 2007, I had pipe bet two or three diff pgms, not the most readble code I've ever written. Why are we still doing it this way ? Aren't BASH and CSH from the mid-'80s ? If memory servers, C itself is thirty years old ! My personal pref is Python, but why not a true C interpreter ? RAM and storage have been so cheap for so long, that many LQ members have only heard of those old constraints.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not suggesting that the older shells should be removed from the system, merely asking why the Linux/BSD/Unix world is so conservative about this subj. BTW, I got started at a time when virtually all programming jobs were for COBOL coders and you couldn't even buy (well, there was XENIX) UNIX !
 
Old 01-23-2007, 08:44 PM   #51
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my vote sh.
 
Old 01-27-2007, 11:18 AM   #52
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zsh. I used to almost exclusively use bash, with some exceptions of tcsh use, but now with the awesome tab completion and vi behavior I had to go with zsh.
 
Old 01-28-2007, 11:38 PM   #53
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I feel like throwing a bash bash.
 
Old 01-30-2007, 11:09 AM   #54
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bash. feature rich, and as far as I'm concerned omni-present.
Even comes with Solaris ;}



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Old 01-30-2007, 11:12 AM   #55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mr-roboto
This isn't an attack, so cool your jets. I've just started using Linux as my daily desktop work env. I've used Linux and BSD for years, but always as a black-box server-type appliance. Anyway, I've never really used BASH (or CSH) for real scripting, but today I needed something universal, so took the plunge.

All I needed was a little string manipulation, ie. strindex(), strcat(), strcpy(), etc. In 2007, I had pipe bet two or three diff pgms, not the most readble code I've ever written. Why are we still doing it this way ? Aren't BASH and CSH from the mid-'80s ? If memory servers, C itself is thirty years old ! My personal pref is Python, but why not a true C interpreter ? RAM and storage have been so cheap for so long, that many LQ members have only heard of those old constraints.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not suggesting that the older shells should be removed from the system, merely asking why the Linux/BSD/Unix world is so conservative about this subj. BTW, I got started at a time when virtually all programming jobs were for COBOL coders and you couldn't even buy (well, there was XENIX) UNIX !
And how do I pipe output of some program into my python or C-program
if I have no shell to run it from? shells are the glue (use the force Luke!)
that hold the system together ;}


Cheers,
Tink
 
Old 02-01-2007, 06:59 AM   #56
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Bash since it's all I ever really use. It works so why change? I have yet to wake up and say to myself, "I think I'll use my time on this planet today to see if there's a better shell out there." It's just not priority.
 
Old 02-01-2007, 09:34 AM   #57
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I've used nothing but bash? Any reason to try the others?
 
Old 02-01-2007, 10:40 AM   #58
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Hmm... am I Korn/KSH voter #1?

I use bash most of the time by default, but for my workplace, Korn was a better fit. It's like comparing flathead and philips to me: most of what I can do in one, I can do in another...
 
Old 02-02-2007, 01:42 AM   #59
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Originally Posted by semisonique
Hmm... am I Korn/KSH voter #1?

I use bash most of the time by default, but for my workplace, Korn was a better fit. It's like comparing flathead and philips to me: most of what I can do in one, I can do in another...
No, I think that would be me. You can be #2 though. Welcome to the land of the free thinking
 
Old 02-02-2007, 04:39 AM   #60
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Originally Posted by gotfw
No, I think that would be me. You can be #2 though. Welcome to the land of the free thinking
<offtopic>Actually I voted before semisonique... yeah, whatever...</offtopic>

Yay, KSH! ^^

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