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Old 07-21-2021, 10:54 AM   #31
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What would you recommend then?
PCLinuxOS
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?di...tion=pclinuxos
 
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Old 07-21-2021, 10:58 AM   #32
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What would you recommend then?
Something like fedora silverblue would satisfy the OP, as it is easy to fix when you break it.

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Old 07-21-2021, 11:02 AM   #33
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If a rolling release isn't on for a newbie, then slackware-current isn't on! But I used Debian Testing quite successfully for a while in the pre-systemd days. It never broke on me.
I know it isn't the accepted use case, but it is nevertheless very effective to install Current as a "Snapshot System" and never upghrade it or only upgrade that with which one is comfortable.

Current is not technically a rolling release. Actual rolling releases like Arch are apparently fully tested and vetted to be "production ready". One could argue that with so many variations possible and likely with such a minimalist system that they would suffer continual and likely catastrophic breakage if they followed the daily test updates of Current. In my view that speaks volumes about the overall robustness of Slackware, including Current.

BTW if I had to recommend a distro for a rank beginner I might be tempted to promote OpenSuSe. Personally I find both systemd and near daily patches a pita, but it is quite robust and fairly intuitive.

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Old 07-21-2021, 11:10 AM   #34
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Yo latimro (OP) if you broke your system and got a kernel panic that very likely means you didn't keep your older, working kernel as a failsafe. I actually don't mean to offend you but that is why you look like a newb. That's just a common rank beginner mistake. Always Protect Your Six!
 
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Old 07-21-2021, 11:39 AM   #35
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Rocky Linux is based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux, it is very stable and would be simple to maintain and use.

https://rockylinux.org/
 
Old 07-21-2021, 12:26 PM   #36
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Since you seem to have a bee in your bonnet, let me ask you this: Have you spoken to Patrick about whether or not he has plans to implement Secure Boot support? If not, then how do you know what his plans are? Ranting about it on a forum isn't going to get you anywhere.
Lucky, much like Darth before him, believes that if something isn't working as s/he expects, it's a deliberate choice by Pat and reacts as such. This is instead of thinking/realizing it might be something Pat just hasn't noticed, hasn't decided to tackle yet, or is working it behind the scenes.
 
Old 07-21-2021, 03:00 PM   #37
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Admit it: we've all been there.
I have, and not only with Slackware¹. But I didn’t go online to complain that the system did nothing to prevent me from being foolish.

¹True story: as a teenager back in the 1990s, I got one of my first PCs which was running Windows 3.11. I knew next to nothing about computers back then (as will be obvious by the end of this paragraph). The hard disk was about 100 Mb large, and I was starting to run out of space. When exploring the hard disk, looking for stuff to delete, I came across a folder full of .dll files, which didn’t seem to do anything useful: nothing happened when you clicked on them, and there was no application seemingly able to open them. So, I methodically and conscientiously deleted all those useless .dll files, thereby saving several dozens of Mb of disk space. I felt very proud of myself that day.

The following day, when I tried to boot that computer… It would not boot! Can you believe it? It was working perfectly fine the day before, how can something work one day and not the next one? Surely, the system must be a piece of crap!

(At the time, for some reason the fact that a failure to boot on day n could be the result of something I did on day n−1 seemed completely illogical to me. I understood only much later.)

At least I didn’t have Internet back then, so I couldn’t go online and ridicule myself.
 
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Old 07-21-2021, 03:03 PM   #38
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Admit it: we've all been there.

Of course, the flip side is that Slackware is also the easiest distro to fix when it does break.
This resonates, especially for those of us that came before the live distro and virtual machine era.
 
Old 07-21-2021, 03:25 PM   #39
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one way to harden a system is to break it in a new way over and over again, until out of new ways to break it...
 
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Old 07-21-2021, 03:47 PM   #40
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Smells like troll thread. Stop feeding him.
 
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Old 07-21-2021, 03:57 PM   #41
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I agree that this kind of thread can go on forever.
 
Old 07-21-2021, 04:25 PM   #42
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Smells like troll thread. Stop feeding him.
It's cathartic to share some of the stupid things we've done over the years, I must admit. I've been keeping in deleting glibc for ages. LOL.
 
Old 07-21-2021, 04:34 PM   #43
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one way to harden a system is to break it in a new way over and over again, until out of new ways to break it...
Then give it to someone else and they'll find new ways to break it.
 
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Old 07-21-2021, 04:34 PM   #44
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Smells like troll thread. Stop feeding him.
Why not give him the benefit of the doubt until it's proved otherwise? OP sounds like a young guy who discovered his reach exceeded his grasp. It happens. That is a painful experience but the results can go either way. Ideally, in my view, he needs to learn from this experience to improve his current lack of skills. This is either a helpful community or it's not.
 
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Old 07-21-2021, 09:24 PM   #45
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What would you recommend then?
for beginners i recommend puppylinux slacko with full installation on hard disk
 
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