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Old 04-06-2012, 09:06 PM   #1
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Slackware and Chrome


If you google 'slackware chrome', you see lots of webpages on how to install chrome in Slackware.

That says something, isn't it? Why should installing such a widely used, cool, fast, and everything, browser be ever a problem in Slackware?

One might blame google for not supporting perfectly more distributions other than debian and ubuntu. But that might not work.

I guess my question is simply that, why slackware developers and maintainers not figure out a way (I know I am not clever enough to do that!) to let installing chrome less painful for all those chrome-lovers?

This might sound like some complaint rather than a question, but it is indeed a question, a long-last one. Any answer, or comment?

EDIT: It turns out some work indeed need be done, only not difficult at all. As T3slider and Ruario mentioned, there is a solid reason why Chrome is not shipped or fully supported by Slackware. Anyway, I am using Chromium now, following Gerardo Zamudio's suggestion (see #18 of this post), and it works so perfectly.

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Old 04-06-2012, 09:12 PM   #2
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There's a slackbuilds for chrome that works just fine. Not painful at all.
 
Old 04-06-2012, 10:17 PM   #3
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If you google 'slackware chrome', you see lots of webpages on how to install chrome in Slackware.

That says something, isn't it? Why should installing such a widely used, cool, fast, and everything, browser be ever a problem in Slackware?

One might blame google for not supporting perfectly more distributions other than debian and ubuntu. But that might not work.

I guess my question is simply that, why slackware developers and maintainers not figure out a way (I know I am not clever enough to do that!) to let installing chrome less painful for all those chrome-lovers?

This might sound like some complaint rather than a question, but it is indeed a question, a long-last one. Any answer, or comment?
What's wrong with the chrome slackbuild? It even let you compile the beta version of chrome...
 
Old 04-06-2012, 10:21 PM   #4
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Most users fail to read the documentation that comes with the release:

http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/sla..._AND_HINTS.TXT

Slackbuild is provided, all you need to do is to download the source and install the 3 dependencies.

It is in extra because the dependencies are not part of the release, hence it being located in the extra folder.

Last edited by SqdnGuns; 04-07-2012 at 03:23 PM. Reason: correction of location
 
Old 04-06-2012, 10:54 PM   #5
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Wait what? We have to do something to get something done?! PREPOSTEROUS!
 
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Old 04-06-2012, 11:23 PM   #6
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Maybe because Chrome requires intrusive dependencies that would otherwise contaminate the entire system (see gconf) and installing such parasites should be left up to the user instead of included by default for all to suffer. Meanwhile Firefox remains free of such harsh dependencies and can be installed/uninstalled at a whim.
 
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Old 04-06-2012, 11:54 PM   #7
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to T3slider: I thought of the same thing too. And Firefox is very nice; but as I use google services for almost everything as a way to simplify the everyday life, I certainly hope google-chrome could work without any problem.

to everyone else there: thanks for your attention. But I do doubt if you use google-chrome at all. I mean, no offense-- I am almost sure in the case of Chrome, you need to add something like "--no-sandbox" to the "google-chrome" command, also you have no way to use the latest chrome 18 which supports 3D function plotting. Chromium? It is version-15 on slackbuilds, which was release year 2011, at least.

Besides, I use to install almost everything with slackbuilds. And that's exactly why I have this question, because there is no prebuild chrome package!

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Old 04-07-2012, 12:10 AM   #8
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Maybe because Chrome requires intrusive dependencies that would otherwise contaminate the entire system (see gconf) and installing such parasites should be left up to the user instead of included by default for all to suffer. Meanwhile Firefox remains free of such harsh dependencies and can be installed/uninstalled at a whim.
Not to mention Opera - untar and unzip and install in your home directory with a simple ./install. Now that's what I call a browser which cares for privacy and security.

I once tried Chrome and, as you say, found it very intrusive. Besides, a company which shows such contempt for computer owners should not be trusted. Chrome itself might be fast, but if you've had to spend a long time trying to disable the bandwidth-sucking GoogleUpdater and GoogleDesktop and related "services" which Google silently installs on a Windows PC you will know the company completely disregards your wishes by setting these "services" to restart after you have disabled them. What you gain in browsing speed you most definitely lose in CPU cycles and bandwidth usage.

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Old 04-07-2012, 12:47 AM   #9
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to gezley: you are leading this post to some other direction...

to anyone who cares: here is a post chrome-users might find useful (on how to upgrade chrome 'automatically'):
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...update-887131/
 
Old 04-07-2012, 12:59 AM   #10
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to T3slider: I thought of the same thing too. And Firefox is very nice; but as I use google services for almost everything as a way to simplify the everyday life, I certainly hope google-chrome could work without any problem.

to everyone else there: thanks for your attention. But I do doubt if you use google-chrome at all. I mean, no offense-- I am almost sure in the case of Chrome, you need to add something like "--no-sandbox" to the "google-chrome" command, also you have no way to use the latest chrome 18 which supports 3D function plotting. Chromium? It is version-15 on slackbuilds, which was release year 2011, at least.

Besides, I use to install almost everything with slackbuilds. And that's exactly why I have this question, because there is no prebuild chrome package!
Attached is a snapshot from the About section of chrome running in my slack box. As you can see, the version is 18.0.1025.142 beta...
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:35 AM   #11
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to gezley: you are leading this post to some other direction
Not really. You asked why including Chrome as standard in Slackware should be a problem. I gave you a perfectly good reason. As a Slackware user I don't want software included if the company making it shows such contempt for users. As far as I am concerned many of Google's programs exhibit virus-like or spyware-like traits. You wanted a reason. That's your reason.
 
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:12 AM   #12
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One might blame google for not supporting perfectly more distributions other than debian and ubuntu. But that might not work.
Actually I would blame them as they seem to go out of their way to make it harder for users of unsupported distros. Opera and Firefox do a much better job of catering for all.

P.S. Yes I will admit I am probably biased by the fact that I work for Opera but they still don't need to make it so difficult just to keep track of whether or not you are running the latest version (with all security updates).
 
Old 04-07-2012, 03:20 AM   #13
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slackpkg install google-chrome
 
Old 04-07-2012, 06:24 AM   #14
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slackpkg install google-chrome

Will spectacularly fail. Slackware does not include a google-chrome package, just a SlackBuild script to make one from the binary Debian package:

http://ftp.uninett.no/linux/slackwar...google-chrome/
 
Old 04-08-2012, 12:30 AM   #15
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Attached is a snapshot from the About section of chrome running in my slack box. As you can see, the version is 18.0.1025.142 beta...
I made a mistake before, that is, My current chrome version is indeed Chrome 18... It seems that I did succeed in doing the rpm2txz and installation with installpkg. I don't know why I thought I failed, anyway sorry for my misleading info!

The remaining problem though is still as mentioned above: I have to add a --no-sandbox to get it running. If anyone has no such problem, does he or she mind sharing with me how?

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