Smokey_justme |
04-07-2014 04:29 AM |
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Originally Posted by k3lt01
(Post 5148015)
So the designer of a ZF 6 speed must understand that a 265 V8 won't be able to deal with the ratios? Sorry but that's just wrong. The fault is with the owner of the vehicle who wants to fit a part that is not suitable. Either fit an appropriate gearbox or if you desperately need the 0.50 overdrive ratio in your car fit an engine as well that can handle it.
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So users that are trying to fit systemd in Linux are to blame? :)) You've missed the analogy.. Probably because you either work with cars or actually know a bit (a lot) more of them then us... Think of a gearbox that's made for a specific car/engine, but fails.. After just putting in the gearbox and it fails, who do you blaim..
Anyway, I strongly suggest both of you to give up this analogy .. It really is beyond the scope..
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The problem between systemd and the kernel indicates the kernel has a weakness, admittedly a weakness that would probably never have been found unless something like systemd come along but the thing is it has and it has shown this weakness. Now that the weakness has been shown to exist wouldn't it be prudent to fix it? Isn't fixing problems the Linux way? or are we just going to ignore this weakness in the kernel because it is systemd, and by extension systemd's creators, who through no fault of their own have shown it exists?
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The kernel had a weakness and they fixed it.. That's exactly what the systemd guys refused to do in their part.. They are the ones that said the debug messages are bloated to the point that they are not useful.. So then why keep them in the global 'debug'? Well.. because apparentely "they are building a core OS", and the dev kernels or users that actually use that debug statement (and have done so in the last couple of years) well.. "they all suck".. ;) It was never about anything else...
Btw, from my understanding, the bloated messages was an already fixed bug (still, either Kay did know and just behaved like a child, or did not know and behaved like an idiot.. ).. Weird, what if that would have been a regression.. Would it this time not be a bug? Anyway, even now, when they are asked to use systemd.debug instead (and this is just because Linus doesn't trust them), they still insist on using the global parameter and just switch the default target of the debug messages (which, at least, is a small step forward)..
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