Xfce as default desktop for Slackware 15.0

Originally Posted by BrunoLafleur For the hardware and standard APIs there is also Xorg and OpenGL which are difficult to upgrade in an old system. For gaming these are useful in their latest version even for old hardware (in which we can't do all). So that's why I now use Slackware current.

I already amended that by noting the graphics stack is upgraded with nVidia driver installation. Intel has deeper problems within the Linux kernel support but that's apparently improving. I'm not familiar with how that is being improved (or not) with AMD/ATi.

Since I moved to -Current solely for Plasma 5, it should be obvious I'm not saying there aren't some advantages where "new" DOES equal "improved". There clearly are but that's not the same as 14.2 is obsolete. Is it time for 15.0? Of course!, but that's just keeping up with progress and staying ahead of the curve but that, too, is not wisely measured in days or months to suddenly shift from "it works" to "it's time to jump ship".

Originally Posted by enorbet I already amended that by noting the graphics stack is upgraded with nVidia driver installation. Intel has deeper problems within the Linux kernel support but that's apparently improving. I'm not familiar with how that is being improved (or not) with AMD/ATi.

The nvidia blob replaces (switches) the OpenGL and GLX core libraries out with proprietary ones, so perhaps not an "upgrade" in the usual sense. As I recall it doesn't utilise the kernel's KMS/DRM stack.

nvidia maintains legacy drivers, but particularly as it's binary only you do have to match the driver to the target system and hardware

There are a series of branches, including legacy branches:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/

So while things can work well for now, you can end up at a loose end if a) your card is considered legacy and needs a legacy driver version and b) there is no support in that legacy driver for newer Linux or X.

If there is still no Slackware 15.0 then I suppose in opinion of Slackware maintainer 14.2 is still good enough. To do the job Slackware is aimed at. Run on wide spectrum of hardware - but rather not brand new. New hardware and stability are rather contradictory. Drivers need time to mature. My experience with Fedora well not much to say. Only joke: anaconda squeeze your throat. Installer in Fedora is named anaconda. I have complete trust in mister Volkerding - now I am sitting on Devuan - with Slackware 14.2 installed along. Once Slackware 15.0 will appear - I will install it instead of Devuan. Probably I should do this now but senselessly I went into lvm when installing Devuan - now I don't have patience to remove lvm completely. To much work for me at this moment - particularly to run only -current for testing. I buil many apps myself - with -current updates - they need to be rebuild - but this require similar structure as Slackware source tree - but for my custom apps. But now I am doin a lot of math, learning lua - so perhaps later I will do something like that.

Originally Posted by cynwulf So while things can work well for now, you can end up at a loose end if a) your card is considered legacy and needs a legacy driver version and b) there is no support in that legacy driver for newer Linux or X.

Granted I tend to upgrade graphics hardware more than any other item since the main human interface is vision. It quite literally largely defines our experience. I've known a few blind users who obviously focus on audio quality for analogous reasons.

I haven't experienced your above scenario even on my ancient laptop (Quadro circa 2008) which I can't upgrade but runs perfectly fine on every modern distro I've thrown at it. For anyone who is experiencing difficulties due to legacy graphics, I do feel for you, but I don't see it as much of a problem excepting laptops that can't be upgraded. The only remaining deep area in PCs is those truly ancient mobos that don't even have PCIe and are stuck on AGP. There are PCIe nvidia cards with 1GB VRAM that support DX12 and OpenGL 4.5 with 3 different outputs to match all but the weirdest monitors for 35 bux USD. They positively grind cards from just 5 years ago costing 200+ bux into the dirt without even a burp or a grunt and won't likely become legacy for another 10 years. 35 bux over even half that, 5 years, is a paltry daily investment IMHO and more than merely worth it to be current. If searching out and trying Legacy drivers bothers anyone, the solution is cheap and simple AND rewarding for the vast majority of computer users.

It is a steeper investment if you use a legacy laptop but new, brand name (Asus, Acer, etc) simple but usable modern laptops are available for well under 300 bux... less than a dollar a day for a year.

Truth be told many folks don't even bother with conventional PCs and consider modern Smartphones the ultimate portable PC. Currently one can buy outright a FOSS Pine64 phone for $159 that has hardware switches and runs many distros of Linux --- https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/

Since it apparently can use distros like Manjaro I'd like to know if Slackware can work on one.

XFCE.org desktop for Slackware 64-bit Linux
XFCE tun in simple QNX6 style and have full KDE4 app's, VLC, LibreOffice and much more add.

I have starting from this idea:


Add you user. "adduser username".
Xdm is default, select xfce in " xwmconfig (enter) -> xfce ";
and i edit file use " nano /etc/rc.d/rc.4 " and comment all, keep only lines there have xdm:


Edit use "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and post this, appropriate you mode's :


Edit " nano /etc/inittab" and first number "3" in text change to "4" in " id:3:initdefault :" .
Reboot, Login.
Adjust you desktop.

Finally i have XFCE desktop:


Generally, i finish today at 2020-09-25.18:08:25.Earth+10:00, i return to XFCE.org desktop because KDE.org desktop go like a buggy car,
and KDE.org App's is not required. But K3Burn is only ONE what i want to use, but i not have DVD-recorder today.
I have a finally state XFCE.org desktop, all applications at Slackware-amd64-current, Linux 5.4.66 PREEMPT,
enterprise-class applications like libreoffice, libreoffice-basic, eclipse, eagle-cad and google-earth and more.
I say Goodby to KDE.org like a desktop today !

Why ? Compatible with all ARCHITECTURES: arm, arm64, ppcxx, x86-i486, x86-i586, x86-64, amd64, and more.

Also i send special like to a JWM Desktop. http://joewing.net/projects/jwm/guide.html
and 4MLinux https://4mlinux-releases.blogspot.co...-released.html

Supported links for easy understanding, but just historically (bibliography):

Kevin Reichard and Eric Foster-Johnson "Unix in Plain English" Second Edition (c) 1997 ISBN 1-558-28-549-0
M.R.M. Dansmuir and G.J. Davies, 1985 "OS UNIX and C Programming" ISBN 0-333-37156-9
S.N. Zeel "OS Real Time QNX, from theory to practice." ISBN 5-94157486-X

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kc9bOSEMts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIcawdy12bs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsgs9oSRwP8
https://youtu.be/V29F-pAZ-s4

Disk Image Writer for Windows (for write cd or dvd disk or img - to usb flash)
https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/files/

FreeBSD 4.10 RELEASE, instructions, manual, and distro CD
https://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.1R/announce.html
http://rapid-shield.com/releases/4.1...tion-i386.html

Special thanks to Eric Turgeon for an excellent distribution GhostBSD MATE and XFCE desktop
https://ghostbsd.org/
http://download.ghostbsd.org/development/amd64/latest/

Linux Games
http://www.alientrap.com/games/nexuiz/
https://store.steampowered.com/linux
http://oolite.org
https://www.teamfortress.com/
https://warthunder.com/en

Also i add Science-like custom wallpapers collection for Slackware Linux.
Thank's to livescience.com
https://sun9-36.userapi.com/8A7SucJ6...rRLfRQer5I.jpg

7CyberSoft
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