Best Workplaces in US? (Linux)

Hi,

Google is probably the best working place for coding under *NIX, I would say. In the US, which are the best workplaces?

Looking forward to hearing you.

You mean *NIX ?
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Bell-Labs

What do you mean with the best working place?
Salary? Interesting projects? A place where you can work from your prefer beach?
For example i'd like to code under *NIX for a space agency. For me that is the best place.

Originally Posted by kooru What do you mean with the best working place? Salary? Interesting projects? A place where you can work from your prefer beach? For example i'd like to code under *NIX for a space agency. For me that is the best place.

Everything all together. I have read that Google has 4th place. Google offers a nice working place. You can work the style you want if your project runs well.

From what I've heard google sucks as an employer. I've heard all sorts of things from x-google employees. This is farily typical-

http://techcrunch.com/2009/01/18/why...mployees-quit/

Originally Posted by Xeratul Everything all together. I have read that Google has 4th place. Google offers a nice working place. You can work the style you want if your project runs well.

You mean this?

Rank: 4 (Previous rank: 4) What makes it so great? The search giant is famous for its laundry list of perks including free food at any of its cafeterias, a climbing wall, and, well, free laundry.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...apshots/4.html

'Free' stuff seems nice, but IMO its not as nice as it seems. Google as masters of public relations, and have got at least as much media exposure and misled possible employees as they have spend on 'free' stuff. Its a double-whammy when google uses 'but we are so nice, look at all the free stuff we give you' as a reason for having low wages...which is something I've heard they do many times.

Originally Posted by cascade9 From what I've heard google sucks as an employer. I've heard all sorts of things from x-google employees. This is farily typical- http://techcrunch.com/2009/01/18/why...mployees-quit/ You mean this? http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...apshots/4.html 'Free' stuff seems nice, but IMO its not as nice as it seems. Google as masters of public relations, and have got at least as much media exposure and misled possible employees as they have spend on 'free' stuff. Its a double-whammy when google uses 'but we are so nice, look at all the free stuff we give you' as a reason for having low wages...which is something I've heard they do many times.

well, it is indeed not so good:

view of employees who were unhappy enough to resign. Top amongst the complaints is low pay relative to what they could earn elsewhere, and disappearing fringe benefits seemed to elevate the concern. Other popular gripes – too much bureaucracy, poor management, poor mentoring, and a hiring process that took months.

http://techcrunch.com/2009/01/18/why...mployees-quit/

Look into high performance computing/supercomputing type places (eg. universities, national labs). These environments are overwhelmingly Linux-based and do a lot of very cool stuff with computing technology.

Originally Posted by btmiller Look into high performance computing/supercomputing type places (eg. universities, national labs). These environments are overwhelmingly Linux-based and do a lot of very cool stuff with computing technology.

For those jobs, they are very limited nbr#, i.e. to get a fixe job at univ.

Valve's Linux team must be near the top.

You can find a nice Linux job pretty close to home just about anywhere, I think. Just look within what you consider to be a reasonable commuting distance. Don't just plunk your resume into the Monster-hole and wait for someone to call you.

Tom Watson, Sr.'s tale (he being the first Chairman of IBM), is apropos. He tells of two shoe-salesmen who were sent to Pango Pango. Their cablegrams were:

1. COMING HOME NEXT BOAT X NO ONE HERE WEARS SHOES XX
2. FABULOUS OPPORTUNITY X SEND ALL YOU HAVE X NO ONE HERE WEARS SHOES XX

I've worked at one time or the other with most of the companies in the Valley, always at a calculated comfort-distance. All of them are flooded with resumes every day, from people who want to work there for the perceived prestige of doing so. And what none of them realize, I think, is that they're going to work in a "Company Town." It's an industrial-nirvana straight from the 19th century ... in silicon trappings. Sure, there's a sushi-bar and tennis courts and god-knows what else: you'll love those if you have no other life, and so you're willing to work night and day there and to identify yourself so completely with your work that you think it's "fun to do."

Just Google the term, "microsoft wives" for another perspective on this... The day will come when what you want most is a healthy work/life balance, to accumulate some of the income that's been pouring in (or not), and to consider something to do which does not in any way involve computers or computer-programming. Don't be fooled by the CEO showing-up at design meetings: pretty much everyone in a pack, no matter how large, projects himself easily into the role of the big-dog. As one person said, "screw the 'hoodie' schtick." (And yet, stupid though it was, the 'hoodie' worked.)