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hand of fate 10-12-2006 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tytower
An avid user of Mandriva -alas no more
Got the new DVD free with Linux Magazine and ........the X.org windows doesn't work so I cant even get in to look without a lot of command line work. Had a look with a Mepis live disk and the config file seems ok .

So wake up Mandriva this problem has had a lot of coverage over the last couple of months and its still not getting it right -More work needed,shame about that

So basically what you're saying is that this product is "useless" because it caused one problem to one user. I defy you to find a single Linux distribution that hasn't ever caused a single problem to a single user. If you can't do this (and I suggest you probably can't), are all Linux distributions "useless"?

reddazz 10-12-2006 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JBailey742
that's what I asked someone else on here, if it's a beta or not, because I don't think the offical DVD version is actually on a DVD and ready to ship.

I've just read the latest issue of Linux Format (Devember 2006 edition) and the editor says that the copy of Mandriva 2007 shipped in Linux Magazine is a Cooker development release and not the final version. He was complaining that this is deceiving readers who bought the magazine thinking that they were getting the offically released version of Mandriva 2007.

Emmanuel_uk 10-12-2006 09:00 AM

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Mandriva 2007 shipped in Linux Magazine is a Cooker development release and not the final version
it makes sense then: I posted in a different thread about the fact that
there was a dhcp and mouse errata with that mag,
but I forgot to say these erata were not the same as Mdv official
How strange... :-)

hansalfredche 10-12-2006 03:04 PM

KDM and Nvidia driver
 
Hi there

Someone mentioned strange things with KDM. What do you mean? On my machine, KDE doesn't have "shutdown" and "restart" in the menu any more, you can only log out (strange, it was there before).

Nvidia driver: has somebody succeded in getting the 3d desktop to work with a manually installed Nvidia driver (so the one from Nvidia directly, where you have to change runlevel and compile)?

Thanks

Emmanuel_uk 10-13-2006 01:14 AM

hansalfredche
more details from you is neeeded. dID you upgrade?
what video card
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doesn't have "shutdown" and "restart" in the menu any more, you can only log out
If you have upgraded, the thread has been split to "2006 TO 2007"
and yes kdm is missing the language menu and some of the new
boxes used in 2007 for the session choice, still it is fonctional
but this was a 2006 to 2007
this is really not the thread to post to
and it is best to keep to one topic/question per thread if possible

hansalfredche 10-13-2006 04:01 AM

Ok ...
 
New thread for my question:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=492029

make 10-13-2006 05:08 AM

I am myself singing Mandriva 2007 praise. It's the most "working-out-of-the-box" release from them I've ever used. The only serious issue I'm having is the broken bluetooth. I hope this will get fixed as well. Other than that and some smaller things I fixed according to the Mandriva 2007 Errata, it is working nearly perfectly.

The most buggy and difficult release to start using for me was 2006. I also remember 10.0 having serious issues. 2007 fixed many things for me that were not working before, like the bcm43xx-wireless chipset (used ndiswrapper before) and made Xgl/AIGLX to work much better with KDE than SuSE 10.1 ever did. I am moving away from SuSE 10.1 as there are serious driver issues as well as some network performance issues on some, specific computers.

Go, Mandriva, go! :)

Lakota 11-14-2006 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lakota
After a four and a half day bit torrent download I can say 2007 official free dvd is flawless on my machine. I've been away from linux for nearly a year and other than a quick command line refresher all is well with the new release. First time running with an ati card on linux, and no probs.

I figured I should vent my frusteration here rather than leave this glowing post as was. Hours into trying to get my Canon ip5000 printer working. Yes, I actually have a paid for Turboprint driver key for this, works great..........just not on this Mandriva release.......hours wasted. My iPods, got three. Had no problem till this release. Both Amarok and gtkpod unmount during the write process leaving some tunes transferred many not, load of crap, whole evening wasted on that. Samsung drivers for my laser multi.......scanner works at much lower resolution than windows, printer, never managed to get that to work either. Other linux stuff that has rubbed me the wrong way: I have paid for two powerpacks from Mandrake. First time by money order and they claimed to never have recieved it so I got nothing but a receipt for the cash I spent for nothing still pinned on my fridge. That was a few years back. Did since buy 2006 using a visa and they let me download that one. When Tux magazine was first coming out I told my family that would be a well appreciated Xmas gift. They paid for a subscription as a gift. Tux decided to be free for all but me. Dec 09/2004 $45.99paid by money order. Yep still got that rip off reminder on the fridge too. Yes, great magazine I will admit but why should I pay and nobody else? Yes, many emails to them unanswered, posted a thread here on how to get it back. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...t=tux+magazine
And jeremy, I believe you probably did forward the details I emailed you, but I assure you I was never contacted or refunded. Yes that ticks me off as they are again going to a paid subscription........or so they claim again. I recently bought a new laptop. Has windows on it and everything works. Unfortunately this Mandriva release on the same hardware I've been using for many other releases has exhausted my patience and I am going to give up and dump it for windows. I went from dual boot to linux only, trying to convert the world, now back to windows only when ever I can get the time to reformat this bloody machine. Can't believe it, managed to get linux running on my pc's during the 2.0 kernel and am now fed up with all the time wasted on a single release. Thats it I'm done, and will be steaming at work tomorrow listening to my messed up iPod. Suppose if I was not such a hard head I could have installed iTunes on the laptop and had everything done right. Maybe I should complain to Gael about this release.....oh wait, where is he.....is that the missing link? Yes, lack of loyalty rubs me the wrong way too. The only thing stopping me from flingin this flippin pc off the balcony is that it is my car parked below.

Lakota 11-14-2006 10:34 PM

Ok, after over 20 remounts and syncs ipod now properly synced. That is still unacceptable as is the rest of my rant. Now I will be happy with music at work but very overtired due to the last hour and half spent on this that should have been a single click of the mouse and off to bed. Grrrrrrrrrr

Lakota 11-15-2006 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lakota
Ok, after over 20 remounts and syncs ipod now properly synced.

Ok, I take that concession to my rant back. Turns out iPod says the new music files are there although they are not. No more fooling around with this Mandriva release for me.

Cara25 11-15-2006 06:10 PM

Reddazz posted,
"I've just read the latest issue of Linux Format (Devember 2006 edition) and the editor says that the copy of Mandriva 2007 shipped in Linux Magazine is a Cooker development release and not the final version. He was complaining that this is deceiving readers who bought the magazine thinking that they were getting the offically released version of Mandriva 2007."

This explains alot of the "hate" mail that 2007 has received, Thanks !

BTW, Mandriva 2007 and KDE are running great on my machine, much less configuration than 2006 in my case. My only advice, keep it simple on the first install then build up gradually.
Scott Nash

Cara25 11-15-2006 06:22 PM

To Lakota,
I quit wasting my money on printers back in the Windows days, most never worked with Windows and the driver downloads were huge. I only buy HP printers/scanners/mutlitask machines. My daughter runs XP and 2006 through an HP Photosmart (model ?) with complete success and I run all the low end lazer and inkjet printers through Mandriva 2006 and now 2007 with no suprises.
Scott Nash

Pebcak 11-16-2006 06:56 AM

Nice trolling post that everyone fell for I see. :tisk:

Padma 11-16-2006 03:24 PM

It may be a troll, but there is truth beneath it. In my experience, the 2007 release just isn't up to snuff.

I have been a Mandrake/Mandriva booster for years. The first version I bought was 6.x. I dual-booted through 7, 8, and 9, and when 10.0 came out, it was good enough to convince me to delete my Windows partition. 2005 and 2006 were progressively better, and I pushed Mandriva as the best distro for new users. Then I downloaded and installed 2007 Powerpack.

My first impression was "BEAUTIFUL". It looked great, worked smoothly, and promised months of pleasure. Then little niggles started to appear. It didn't like my networked HP Business Inkjet printer. (That printer never even showed up in CUPS.) I couldn't sync my Palm Tungsten T3. Etc. Nothing that is insoluable (probably), but all stuff that has always worked "out of the box" for me for three years.

Not that I'll ever go back to Windows. I installed PCLinuxOS 0.93 on a spare partition, keeping my /home, and I'm back to happy again. :)

Lakota 11-16-2006 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pebcak
Nice trolling post that everyone fell for I see. :tisk:

Actually I consider it stating an opinion of a used to be Mandriva user. I was not looking for suggestions on how to fix or anything of the sort. I, like you are doing jumped to defend the mighty linux when I saw such a thread title. Well after a bit of time using it for more than internet browsing I know longer hold the same opinion of this release. It is not linux I am bashing, I am simply stating that hardware that easily worked in my Mandriva 2006 install I can't even manage to set up on this release. I have been Mandriva user since release 8.1, setting up this hardware should not be such a problem for me. I also use DSL, slax, and Vector linux. The laptop I just replaced was Vector only. So you can settle down, not bashing linux as a whole. If I was posting on a car forum and sang the praises of the new car I just bought only to find that it only got two miles to the gallon afterwards, I would feel compelled to correct my original opinion with my newer more informed opinion. My plea for help with the Canon printer is still a 0 reply thread in hardware so not like I did not give it an honest try. This same machine on Mandriva was so rock solid when I spent lots of time on the forum here a few years back, I had to try to simulate problems people were haveing to try to help answer questions, it was flawless in my opinion a while back. Maybe you should dump your Debian install and take Mandriva 2007 for a real spin and come back to report your opinion. Again this is just my opinion and I will not be posting on this thread again to reply to anything. I probably should not even have responded to your dig there, just ticked me off since I have invested alot of time in trying to help out newbies and promote Mandriva over the last few years, you can search my posts and compare them to your own and form your own opinion as to whether I have been a contributer or a troll in the Mandriva forum. With alot of time invested in something that you have been quite passionate about, when things go to crap, you can get a little emotional about it. An opinion is just that, an opinion.


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