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tytower 10-06-2006 05:52 PM

Mandriva 2007 (Cooker Version)is a DUD
 
An avid user of Mandriva -alas no more
Got the new DVD free with Linux Magazine and ........the X.org windows doesn't work so I cant even get in to look without a lot of command line work. Had a look with a Mepis live disk and the config file seems ok .

So wake up Mandriva this problem has had a lot of coverage over the last couple of months and its still not getting it right -More work needed,shame about that

EDIT - This is the cooker "version"

rrsc16954 10-06-2006 07:40 PM

Sorry you are having problems tytower.

There's a stage where the installer says your display card has options (or something like this) and asks if you want to take advantage.

Yesterday I installed in a machine with a very new m/board and cpu where I had been having problems installing Mandriva. I selected 'yes' and was/am delighted to find that the installation went ahead no problem. Still seems ok.

Tonight I installed on this, my main, now older machine (year 2000) where I have installed Mandrake/Mandriva many times. I chose 'yes' again, although I was surprised my old display card would have any hidden attributes at this stage.

The installation failed. Could not install the kernel. The problem was very similar to what I had on the newer machine before.

I tried again answering 'no' and it's ok now. I had in between tried re-installing 2006 Club and that failed as well. I can tell you I was in a panic - no backup of lots of data - not expecting difficulty.

The new 2007 is beautiful compared with the Christmas club edition of 2006. Very glossy. I have tried just putting in a dvd and it played straight off, the LinnDVD 'does what it says on the tin'.

I have hardly used it yet but it looks good to me. Hope you can get sorted.

GlennsPref 10-06-2006 08:23 PM

I am now a proud user of Mandy 2007 free x86_64.

And I agree that it is good.

I had huge problems with beta2, I was thinking of a new distro too.

Tried Ubunto dvd from the linux magazine and no go, it would fail to load. How disheartening, I'd heard so much about it and now with my new 64 bit amd and dvd burner I couldn't even try it out!

Persistance pays off.

Find another source and try it again.

equinox 10-07-2006 10:19 AM

Quote:

An avid user of Mandriva -alas no more
Got the new DVD free with Linux Magazine and ........the X.org windows doesn't work so I cant even get in to look without a lot of command line work. Had a look with a Mepis live disk and the config file seems ok .

So wake up Mandriva this problem has had a lot of coverage over the last couple of months and its still not getting it right -More work needed,shame about that
Everything works fine for me, please don't come spread your FUD. IMHO, Mandriva 2007 is their finest release to date (in my time since Mandrake 9.0).

reddazz 10-07-2006 12:06 PM

The version of Mandriva 2007 being shipped by Linux Magazine does not seem to be the same as the official Mandriva 2007. The official Mandriva 2007 was released only a few days ago, so how could have Linux magazine have got the isos, manufactured the discs in bulk and shipped them with their magazine in such a short period of time?

Ixthusdan 10-07-2006 02:17 PM

I have had no trouble with Mandriva 2007 since RC1. I know that the only issue I have seen with video is one should use the plf rpms for nvidia rather than the nvidia installation progam. There is something about the 9.xx driver fixing the current installation issue, although again, plf rpms have no issue. My hardware is old! (AMD1800xp, nforce2 ultra mb, and 5200fx video)I have been using Mandriva since 7.0. I also think that this is the best install and the fastest running version yet. I am also running 3D desktop with no slow down.

While no 3d because of stinky SIS chip, my laptop also runs Mandriva 2007 without problems.

JBailey742 10-08-2006 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reddazz
The version of Mandriva 2007 being shipped by Linux Magazine does not seem to be the same as the official Mandriva 2007. The official Mandriva 2007 was released only a few days ago, so how could have Linux magazine have got the isos, manufactured the discs in bulk and shipped them with their magazine in such a short period of time?

that's what I asked someone else on here, if it's a beta or not, because I don't think the offical DVD version is actually on a DVD and ready to ship.

Richie55 10-08-2006 01:16 PM

Just installed 2007 Free, and very happy! Took a bit of work getting the Internet on my Sagem Fast 800, purly because on 2006 I used eagle-usb and know what I was doing(ish), but now I have to uses ueagle-atm, but now I figured that out, everything else is just like 2006 but that bit better polished.

So if anyone reads this and is put off installing 2007, please don't, its just what you would expect it to be.

Only other thing is that I can't find the kernel source to install so i can install the nvidia driver and get the 3d desktop to work, and easyurpmi site is down.

But as a whole loving it!!! (in a non-macdonalds way of course).

[EDIT}
I agree with Ixthusdan, I think 2007 is running faster than 2006 did on the same hardware only a day ago.

equinox 10-08-2006 01:46 PM

Quote:

Just installed 2007 Free, and very happy! Took a bit of work getting the Internet on my Sagem Fast 800, purly because on 2006 I used eagle-usb and know what I was doing(ish), but now I have to uses ueagle-atm, but now I figured that out, everything else is just like 2006 but that bit better polished.

So if anyone reads this and is put off installing 2007, please don't, its just what you would expect it to be.

Only other thing is that I can't find the kernel source to install so i can install the nvidia driver and get the 3d desktop to work, and easyurpmi site is down.

But as a whole loving it!!! (in a non-macdonalds way of course).

[EDIT}
I agree with Ixthusdan, I think 2007 is running faster than 2006 did on the same hardware only a day ago.
http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mir...007.0.i586.rpm

Richie55 10-08-2006 03:07 PM

equinox - Thankyou, what was the perfect reply.

JBailey742 10-08-2006 11:13 PM

See, the offical DVD x86_64 works for the most part, but loki installers dont. It shows errors, and even after installing the package, it still pops up.

Emmanuel_uk 10-09-2006 02:44 AM

Quote:

X.org windows doesn't work so I cant even get in to look without a lot of command line work
did you try from the command line
drakx11 (and try various drivers, screen resolution etc)

I think you are clued up (if I remember other posts from yourself)

I had to run xorgconfig to get my video to work (see in another thread)
drakx11 did not manage to get xorg.conf set up properly

Lakota 10-11-2006 11:55 PM

After a four and a half day bit torrent download I can say 2007 official free dvd is flawless on my machine. I've been away from linux for nearly a year and other than a quick command line refresher all is well with the new release. First time running with an ati card on linux, and no probs.

ernie 10-12-2006 03:06 AM

Mandriva 2007.0 (official) free working excellently here. I agree it seems faster, looks great and better still my old AMD 1800+ processor is running 10 to 15 degrees Celsius cooler than it did when I was using Mandriva Linux 2006.0.

The images are out on the mirrors, 4 CD or 1 DVD set, or you can get the boot.iso image from the install directory and do an ftp install.

Emmanuel_uk 10-12-2006 07:05 AM

I haved asked mod to split thread

yes, did also a full install on spare partition to compare
- kdm works strangely (some functionallity missing compared to full install 2007)
- xorg a bit confused
- ndiswrapper needed -e then -i
wlan0 settings lost despite cfg still there, add to retype SSID and wep key from /etc/sysconfig
otherwise not noticed anything else, but did not try hard

hand of fate 10-12-2006 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tytower
An avid user of Mandriva -alas no more
Got the new DVD free with Linux Magazine and ........the X.org windows doesn't work so I cant even get in to look without a lot of command line work. Had a look with a Mepis live disk and the config file seems ok .

So wake up Mandriva this problem has had a lot of coverage over the last couple of months and its still not getting it right -More work needed,shame about that

So basically what you're saying is that this product is "useless" because it caused one problem to one user. I defy you to find a single Linux distribution that hasn't ever caused a single problem to a single user. If you can't do this (and I suggest you probably can't), are all Linux distributions "useless"?

reddazz 10-12-2006 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBailey742
that's what I asked someone else on here, if it's a beta or not, because I don't think the offical DVD version is actually on a DVD and ready to ship.

I've just read the latest issue of Linux Format (Devember 2006 edition) and the editor says that the copy of Mandriva 2007 shipped in Linux Magazine is a Cooker development release and not the final version. He was complaining that this is deceiving readers who bought the magazine thinking that they were getting the offically released version of Mandriva 2007.

Emmanuel_uk 10-12-2006 09:00 AM

Quote:

Mandriva 2007 shipped in Linux Magazine is a Cooker development release and not the final version
it makes sense then: I posted in a different thread about the fact that
there was a dhcp and mouse errata with that mag,
but I forgot to say these erata were not the same as Mdv official
How strange... :-)

hansalfredche 10-12-2006 03:04 PM

KDM and Nvidia driver
 
Hi there

Someone mentioned strange things with KDM. What do you mean? On my machine, KDE doesn't have "shutdown" and "restart" in the menu any more, you can only log out (strange, it was there before).

Nvidia driver: has somebody succeded in getting the 3d desktop to work with a manually installed Nvidia driver (so the one from Nvidia directly, where you have to change runlevel and compile)?

Thanks

Emmanuel_uk 10-13-2006 01:14 AM

hansalfredche
more details from you is neeeded. dID you upgrade?
what video card
Quote:

doesn't have "shutdown" and "restart" in the menu any more, you can only log out
If you have upgraded, the thread has been split to "2006 TO 2007"
and yes kdm is missing the language menu and some of the new
boxes used in 2007 for the session choice, still it is fonctional
but this was a 2006 to 2007
this is really not the thread to post to
and it is best to keep to one topic/question per thread if possible

hansalfredche 10-13-2006 04:01 AM

Ok ...
 
New thread for my question:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=492029

make 10-13-2006 05:08 AM

I am myself singing Mandriva 2007 praise. It's the most "working-out-of-the-box" release from them I've ever used. The only serious issue I'm having is the broken bluetooth. I hope this will get fixed as well. Other than that and some smaller things I fixed according to the Mandriva 2007 Errata, it is working nearly perfectly.

The most buggy and difficult release to start using for me was 2006. I also remember 10.0 having serious issues. 2007 fixed many things for me that were not working before, like the bcm43xx-wireless chipset (used ndiswrapper before) and made Xgl/AIGLX to work much better with KDE than SuSE 10.1 ever did. I am moving away from SuSE 10.1 as there are serious driver issues as well as some network performance issues on some, specific computers.

Go, Mandriva, go! :)

Lakota 11-14-2006 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lakota
After a four and a half day bit torrent download I can say 2007 official free dvd is flawless on my machine. I've been away from linux for nearly a year and other than a quick command line refresher all is well with the new release. First time running with an ati card on linux, and no probs.

I figured I should vent my frusteration here rather than leave this glowing post as was. Hours into trying to get my Canon ip5000 printer working. Yes, I actually have a paid for Turboprint driver key for this, works great..........just not on this Mandriva release.......hours wasted. My iPods, got three. Had no problem till this release. Both Amarok and gtkpod unmount during the write process leaving some tunes transferred many not, load of crap, whole evening wasted on that. Samsung drivers for my laser multi.......scanner works at much lower resolution than windows, printer, never managed to get that to work either. Other linux stuff that has rubbed me the wrong way: I have paid for two powerpacks from Mandrake. First time by money order and they claimed to never have recieved it so I got nothing but a receipt for the cash I spent for nothing still pinned on my fridge. That was a few years back. Did since buy 2006 using a visa and they let me download that one. When Tux magazine was first coming out I told my family that would be a well appreciated Xmas gift. They paid for a subscription as a gift. Tux decided to be free for all but me. Dec 09/2004 $45.99paid by money order. Yep still got that rip off reminder on the fridge too. Yes, great magazine I will admit but why should I pay and nobody else? Yes, many emails to them unanswered, posted a thread here on how to get it back. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...t=tux+magazine
And jeremy, I believe you probably did forward the details I emailed you, but I assure you I was never contacted or refunded. Yes that ticks me off as they are again going to a paid subscription........or so they claim again. I recently bought a new laptop. Has windows on it and everything works. Unfortunately this Mandriva release on the same hardware I've been using for many other releases has exhausted my patience and I am going to give up and dump it for windows. I went from dual boot to linux only, trying to convert the world, now back to windows only when ever I can get the time to reformat this bloody machine. Can't believe it, managed to get linux running on my pc's during the 2.0 kernel and am now fed up with all the time wasted on a single release. Thats it I'm done, and will be steaming at work tomorrow listening to my messed up iPod. Suppose if I was not such a hard head I could have installed iTunes on the laptop and had everything done right. Maybe I should complain to Gael about this release.....oh wait, where is he.....is that the missing link? Yes, lack of loyalty rubs me the wrong way too. The only thing stopping me from flingin this flippin pc off the balcony is that it is my car parked below.

Lakota 11-14-2006 10:34 PM

Ok, after over 20 remounts and syncs ipod now properly synced. That is still unacceptable as is the rest of my rant. Now I will be happy with music at work but very overtired due to the last hour and half spent on this that should have been a single click of the mouse and off to bed. Grrrrrrrrrr

Lakota 11-15-2006 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lakota
Ok, after over 20 remounts and syncs ipod now properly synced.

Ok, I take that concession to my rant back. Turns out iPod says the new music files are there although they are not. No more fooling around with this Mandriva release for me.

Cara25 11-15-2006 06:10 PM

Reddazz posted,
"I've just read the latest issue of Linux Format (Devember 2006 edition) and the editor says that the copy of Mandriva 2007 shipped in Linux Magazine is a Cooker development release and not the final version. He was complaining that this is deceiving readers who bought the magazine thinking that they were getting the offically released version of Mandriva 2007."

This explains alot of the "hate" mail that 2007 has received, Thanks !

BTW, Mandriva 2007 and KDE are running great on my machine, much less configuration than 2006 in my case. My only advice, keep it simple on the first install then build up gradually.
Scott Nash

Cara25 11-15-2006 06:22 PM

To Lakota,
I quit wasting my money on printers back in the Windows days, most never worked with Windows and the driver downloads were huge. I only buy HP printers/scanners/mutlitask machines. My daughter runs XP and 2006 through an HP Photosmart (model ?) with complete success and I run all the low end lazer and inkjet printers through Mandriva 2006 and now 2007 with no suprises.
Scott Nash

Pebcak 11-16-2006 06:56 AM

Nice trolling post that everyone fell for I see. :tisk:

Padma 11-16-2006 03:24 PM

It may be a troll, but there is truth beneath it. In my experience, the 2007 release just isn't up to snuff.

I have been a Mandrake/Mandriva booster for years. The first version I bought was 6.x. I dual-booted through 7, 8, and 9, and when 10.0 came out, it was good enough to convince me to delete my Windows partition. 2005 and 2006 were progressively better, and I pushed Mandriva as the best distro for new users. Then I downloaded and installed 2007 Powerpack.

My first impression was "BEAUTIFUL". It looked great, worked smoothly, and promised months of pleasure. Then little niggles started to appear. It didn't like my networked HP Business Inkjet printer. (That printer never even showed up in CUPS.) I couldn't sync my Palm Tungsten T3. Etc. Nothing that is insoluable (probably), but all stuff that has always worked "out of the box" for me for three years.

Not that I'll ever go back to Windows. I installed PCLinuxOS 0.93 on a spare partition, keeping my /home, and I'm back to happy again. :)

Lakota 11-16-2006 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pebcak
Nice trolling post that everyone fell for I see. :tisk:

Actually I consider it stating an opinion of a used to be Mandriva user. I was not looking for suggestions on how to fix or anything of the sort. I, like you are doing jumped to defend the mighty linux when I saw such a thread title. Well after a bit of time using it for more than internet browsing I know longer hold the same opinion of this release. It is not linux I am bashing, I am simply stating that hardware that easily worked in my Mandriva 2006 install I can't even manage to set up on this release. I have been Mandriva user since release 8.1, setting up this hardware should not be such a problem for me. I also use DSL, slax, and Vector linux. The laptop I just replaced was Vector only. So you can settle down, not bashing linux as a whole. If I was posting on a car forum and sang the praises of the new car I just bought only to find that it only got two miles to the gallon afterwards, I would feel compelled to correct my original opinion with my newer more informed opinion. My plea for help with the Canon printer is still a 0 reply thread in hardware so not like I did not give it an honest try. This same machine on Mandriva was so rock solid when I spent lots of time on the forum here a few years back, I had to try to simulate problems people were haveing to try to help answer questions, it was flawless in my opinion a while back. Maybe you should dump your Debian install and take Mandriva 2007 for a real spin and come back to report your opinion. Again this is just my opinion and I will not be posting on this thread again to reply to anything. I probably should not even have responded to your dig there, just ticked me off since I have invested alot of time in trying to help out newbies and promote Mandriva over the last few years, you can search my posts and compare them to your own and form your own opinion as to whether I have been a contributer or a troll in the Mandriva forum. With alot of time invested in something that you have been quite passionate about, when things go to crap, you can get a little emotional about it. An opinion is just that, an opinion.

miclem 11-17-2006 07:28 AM

I've been using Mandrake/iva since 10.1. I missed out 2006, preferring to stick with LE 2005 until this release, & have got to say that so far it's been fine & dandy, apart from a few moments of oddness, & not being able to get Compiz to play ball for longer than 10 minutes. Given that the distribution is only just over a month old, it has to be said that it appears to be as stable as can be expected for something so new, and nothing like as easy to break as 10.1 & LE 2005 were, even after many months & updates. If the mark of a good release is ease of configuration & not having to reinstall every week or less for 6 months until you've figured out what's going to break the system ( & before anyone starts about logging & command-line, I know. It's just that that side of thing daunts me lots! That & I just haven't had the time to learn a new language recently...) then this is a fine release.

To those who say it's a dud, please remember that it is new, & will obviously have some glitches for a while.

mikejac69 01-13-2007 03:23 PM

I too was a Mandriva user up until 2007 release, I had nothing but problems with this release, having used happily every release from 9.1 I had so many problems with this 2007 release that I have abandoned Mandriva for Kubuntu 6.10 which, after a little tweaking, runs nicely.

pk108 01-13-2007 07:26 PM

I am a long time Fedora user on my laptop. For xmas, I got a new HP Intel duo core desktop with a SATA drive (pavilion s7600y). I tried installing Fedora,Suse,and Ubuntu, and Mandrake 2007 from the Magazine DVDs. The only one that worked was Mandriva 2007. With the exception of the mouse being misconfigured, everything works.
None of the others even come close. My biggest problem is feeling like I am abandoning an old friend.

fair_is_fair 01-13-2007 07:39 PM

I tried the new Mandrake 2007 dvd.

I abandoned the install where I received the message "No madwifi support in the free version" or some such thing.

Four gigs of Mandrake and they couldn't give any wireless support when almost every other distro has the support in their 700 mb cds?

reddazz 01-13-2007 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fair_is_fair
I tried the new Mandrake 2007 dvd.

I abandoned the install where I received the message "No madwifi support in the free version" or some such thing.

Four gigs of Mandrake and they couldn't give any wireless support when almost every other distro has the support in their 700 mb cds?

YOu could just add madwifi support yourself. Many distros do not include non free stuff on the free or gpl versions of their distros so I don't think Mandriva is alone on this one.

barrythai 01-14-2007 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by equinox
Everything works fine for me, please don't come spread your FUD. IMHO, Mandriva 2007 is their finest release to date (in my time since Mandrake 9.0).

Absolute rubbish so many things do not work it is worse than Mandrake 7.

10.1 was the best since Mandriva it has been going downhill.

barrythai 01-14-2007 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fair_is_fair
I tried the new Mandrake 2007 dvd.

I abandoned the install where I received the message "No madwifi support in the free version" or some such thing.

Four gigs of Mandrake and they couldn't give any wireless support when almost every other distro has the support in their 700 mb cds?

Cant understand what you mean as madwifi? My laptop does work better than anyother distro for wifi with 2007.0 There is one problem though although it remembers wifi on switch on, it fails to reinstall the ethernet when I have to use it when not in hotspots.

All other latest distro's are non user friendly wifi in this regard. Mand? has more support for cards/usb than any other.

Still problems with dvd player in 32 and 64 bit and apache php in the 64bit version.

Taking mysql out is another nuisance.

:Pengy: :Pengy: :Pengy: :Pengy:

Richie55 01-14-2007 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by equinox
Everything works fine for me, please don't come spread your FUD. IMHO, Mandriva 2007 is their finest release to date (in my time since Mandrake 9.0).

I agree, I've had no real issues, and its fast stable does what it says on the tin. I don't understand this hudge contrast of view. Is it all down to the hardware we use? If we have the right set up for mandriva we love it, if we don't we hate it?

I keep getting tempted to try another distro, but then I think why, everything seems fine here.

reddazz 01-14-2007 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richie55
I agree, I've had no real issues, and its fast stable does what it says on the tin. I don't understand this hudge contrast of view. Is it all down to the hardware we use? If we have the right set up for mandriva we love it, if we don't we hate it?

I keep getting tempted to try another distro, but then I think why, everything seems fine here.

I'm surprised by the huge differences in opinion. I personally installed Mandriva 2007 on a couple of laptops and three desktop machines and it works perfectly.

fair_is_fair 01-14-2007 09:28 PM

Well, I'm constantly trying out distros. Most distros do not have any trouble with my wireless hardware and I normally have wireless up and running first boot.
I hadn't used Mandrake since 9.0 or so. Thought I would give the new 007 a whirl. I will give Mandriva another go around once I locate the necessary packages to have on hand. I cannot download or install them with Mandriva as I have no internet connection other than wireless.
Searching for packages so far has proved fruitless. Where can I download the necessary packages from? Mandriva and Sourceforge come up empty when I search Madwifi.

tytower 01-15-2007 03:36 AM

Try here for free and non free

http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/

>>BLACKHOLE<< 01-17-2007 11:18 AM

MANDRIVA 2007 not installing!
 
What's up guys-

I just got the linux format magazine, and it came with the free MANDRIVA-2007 dvd. When I put it in my nix box to install, nothing happens. I just get the non system disk message press any key and try again My hard drive is already
formated.

Does anybody know why it's not installing???
____________________________________________
>>BLACKHOLE<<

+no knowledge or information can escape my dense gravitational pull<<

>>BLACKHOLE<<

2007-(-_+)

pixellany 01-17-2007 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by >>BLACKHOLE<<

I just got the linux format magazine, and it came with the free MANDRIVA-2007 dvd. When I put it in my nix box to install, nothing happens. I just get the non system disk message press any key and try again My hard drive is already
formated.

Does anybody know why it's not installing???
____________________________________________
>>BLACKHOLE<<

"Non-system disk" menas the bios is not finding anything bootable--could it be that a floppy is in the drive?

Is the BIOS set to boot from CD/DVD? If so, can you boot from some other CD or DVD?

Read other posts in this thread about the magazine version not being the latest.

tytower 01-18-2007 03:44 AM

Well just an update
I've just spent all day trying to make Mandriva 2007 start the x windows up.
It absolutely refuses ,even with lower resolutons and screen sizes.

I didn't want to give up but its just hopeless. Went into all sorts of areas to change the screen display and got the screen up and working but could not get it to keep that sucessful configuration.

Only positive aspect was when I did get into a command line and issue "kde" I got an error message from my SiS 630 card that "virtual screen too big for memory ,5120K needed 4096K available"

So I played with extra shared memory from 8 Meg to 16 Meg in case that helped but nothing.

By the way , the version I am having trouble with came from "Linux Magazine DVD " and it is the "Cooker" version.

fair_is_fair 01-18-2007 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tytower
Try here for free and non free

http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/

Thanks tytower.


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