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jeremy 02-20-2004 01:10 PM

New LinuxQuestions.org Site - The LQ Wiki
 
I am happy to announce that a new LQ site is now entering public beta. The LQ Wiki aims to be a collaboratively-edited repository for all things Linux. Please bear with us as we clean things up and finalize the help section, but feel free to start making edits and additions now. Note that as this is a separate site, your forum login info will not work. All content entered into the wiki is available under the terms of a Creative Commons license, so the content will remain free to use for all. Please post all feedback, comments and suggestions in this thread. I'd like to thank david_ross who put a ton of work into getting the wiki up and running (and looking good) and trickykid for doing the logo.

...now off to the wiki!
http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/

--jeremy

aaa 02-20-2004 02:37 PM

Cool...

Skyline 02-20-2004 02:53 PM

Nice; an added focus to the site - cheers Dave, Tricky, Jeremy.

aaa 02-20-2004 04:08 PM

What are the rules for adding content?

Peacedog 02-20-2004 06:07 PM

that's great i just registered. thx to all involved. not to be an echo, but, as aaa stated are there any rules? i don't see any posted. i'd also like to offer my services for any future endeavor concerning graphics. (although i don't believe trickykid's logo could be improved, just to get that straight.) i do graphics work, from pencil drawings on paper to technical drafting to computer graphics. just consider me a volunteer in that arena. i would love to contribute to what i consider my "home on the net". thx again to all involved, for your hard work.

jeremy 02-20-2004 06:16 PM

http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/....org_Wiki:Help has some of the basics and the style guideline etc. are still being worked out. Please feel free to add as much info as you'd like to the wiki - the few page that you shouldn't edit won't let you edit them anyway ;)

--jeremy

Peacedog 02-20-2004 06:28 PM

thx jeremy, sorry i missed that, i kind of pride myself on searching for answers before i ask ?'s. thx, again.

Skyline 02-20-2004 08:17 PM

Hi Jeremy/Mods/members - I 've just added about 20 distributions to the WIKI Distribution section - (kept to the popular ones) - a question:

In addition to the current alphabetical distro listing it might be an idea to have a categorized distribution link/(s) at the top so people can quickly home in on a particular type of distro for example

Live CD's

Firewall distributions

Majors

etc etc etc

This would enable two general approaches to finding out about distros:

1) - If you know the name of the distribution in advance, you can peruse the alphabetical listing by letter, find it and click

2) - however - if you specifically want to find out about a certain category of distribution ie Live cd's or Firewall distros etc etc etc, you can click straight to that category, rather than having to sift through a long alphabetical listing and never knowing the full plethora of distributions within that category.

What do you think?

Clicking on a category link like Live CD's or Firewall distros would bring you to another page with a general description of what that category of distribution typically does and then below it, the list of distribution links proper for that category.

jeremy 02-20-2004 11:32 PM

Just a note that the slowness in the wiki (and also in the forums) due to timeouts has been resolved. Sorry for the inconvenience.

--jeremy

jeremy 02-20-2004 11:34 PM

Skyline, the great thing about the wiki is that anyone can add content. If you'd like a "categorized distribution" page, you can link to it from the distro page and start building it.

--jeremy

LinuxLala 02-20-2004 11:40 PM

this is nice.

Whitehat 02-20-2004 11:53 PM

Man.......the wiki site is growing like mad.

Schweet :D
Whitehat

LinuxLala 02-21-2004 01:47 AM

Hi Jeremy.

I just added a few commands. Could you please enlighten me as to what the Talk feature is.

Too sad I can not put more there for some hours :( 'cause I have two exams tomorrow.

LinuxLala 02-21-2004 05:32 AM

hey Trickykid, that logo is awesome man...

jeremy 02-21-2004 10:48 AM

The "discuss this page" talk if for discussion about the contents of its associated "subject" page. The user talk page can be used for the occasional personal (but public) communication among users. I'll add this to the help section also.

--jeremy

jeremy 02-21-2004 11:29 AM

http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/...iki:Talk_Pages has been added to the wiki. I am still working on the help section, but if you see anything you think is missing please let me know.

--jeremy

Skyline 02-21-2004 04:37 PM

Jeremy - any thoughts on moving the "preview warning" out of the actual preview in the Wiki (when you click show preview button) - maybe put it above, outside the actual preview so its still there, but doesn't distract from evaluating the actual preview - noticed it made matters more difficult particularly when assessing formating.

jeremy 02-21-2004 04:48 PM

Skyline,

Right now it should appear above any actual content. I'd like to leave it as obvious as possible to prevent any accidental data loss.

--jeremy

Skyline 02-21-2004 07:26 PM

Jeremy - any guidance for members on whether we should put our moniker names in, or leave them out, if you've created a Wiki sub-section etc - given that its a collaborative effort and there's tons of work to do, would it just be best if we left them out completely. (just to clarify for everyone)

jeremy 02-21-2004 07:32 PM

I am working on the style guide now, but you should always leave them out. Most pages will be edited by many users and the system already keeps track of who did what.

--jeremy

BTW, thanks to those members who are already adding content. What do you think so far?

Skyline 02-21-2004 07:43 PM

Thanks for clarifying - as to the current state - looking good so far - early days - am enjoying getting the distributions section going for now.

Skyline 02-22-2004 10:55 AM

Jeremy - any guidance on distribution descriptions in the WIki - currently using short descriptions from the distribution's homepage - reasoning is simply that, that's how they're currently describing their own distributions in their own words - is this ok for now?

jeremy 02-22-2004 11:29 AM

I'd say it's fine for now. It'll grow as more people start to use it.

--jeremy

Tinkster 02-22-2004 12:06 PM

Re: New LinuxQuestions.org Site - The LQ Wiki
 
Quote:

Originally posted by jeremy
I am happy to announce that a new LQ site is now entering public beta. The LQ Wiki aims to be a collaboratively-edited repository for all things Linux. Please bare with us as we clean things up and finalize the help section, but feel free to start making edits and additions now. Note that as this is a separate site, your forum login info will not work. All content entered into the wiki is available under the terms of a Creative Commons license, so the content will remain free to use for all. Please post all feedback, comments and suggestions in this thread. I'd like to thank david_ross who put a ton of work into getting the wiki up and running (and looking good) and trickykid for doing the logo.

...now off to the wiki!
http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/

--jeremy

Hi Jeremy and you other mods involved!

This a great thing :)

Two comments/questions:
1. it's bear, not bare :}

2. the user/password are disjunct from LQ's?


Cheers,
Tink

Whitehat 02-22-2004 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jeremy
BTW, thanks to those members who are already adding content. What do you think so far?
I think it's growing fast and it's going to turn out awesome.

It's a whole bunch of knowledge flowing into the site and being thrown down on "paper". I likey :D

Peace,
Whitehat

Tinkster 02-22-2004 02:25 PM

Another question ... curently the commands are just
underlined ... how would you make them a link, so
you can add info (like examples) to a certain topic?

Find is one of my all-time-favourites and WIDELY
underestimated ... I'd love to add find-specific
examples to the Wiki ... :}


Cheers,
Tink

boreo 02-22-2004 03:18 PM

This is great!!!!

Whitehat 02-22-2004 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tinkster
Another question ... curently the commands are just
underlined ... how would you make them a link, so
you can add info (like examples) to a certain topic?

Find is one of my all-time-favourites and WIDELY
underestimated ... I'd love to add find-specific
examples to the Wiki ... :}


Cheers,
Tink

Like this :)

* [[find]]

or

[[find]]

Peace,
Whitehat

jeremy 02-22-2004 06:16 PM

Tink,

The usernames are disjunct from LQ. This was a conscious decision to keep the sites someone separated (ie. I didn't want you to have to create a forum login to participate in the wiki). The help section should assist you with all the layout/linking/etc issues:
http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/....org_Wiki:Help

--jeremy

Tinkster 02-22-2004 07:43 PM

Thanks for the comments Jeremy and Whitehat!


Cheers,
TInk

LinuxLala 02-23-2004 12:34 AM

The wiki is going good. I'd just like to say that since morning(Monday) I cannot view the Commands page
http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Commands

As this is the first time I am participating in adding content to any wiki, I don't know a few things. How do I create a new page and make a link to it?

Thanks.

LinuxLala 02-23-2004 12:35 AM

Never mind. I found out <sheepish smile> Should have searched on the wiki site first.

Skyline 02-23-2004 05:42 AM

Jeremy - have just noticed that we currently don't have working page links to:

[[stub]]
[[plunge forward]]
[[help it grow]]

using the typical linking method in the WIki - have just tried to link to each of the above but they currently all refer to the same page URL name ending - ie

"LinuxQuestions"

jeremy 02-23-2004 07:14 AM

Skyline,
As those pages are part of the manual they are not part of the default namespace, but the LinuxQuestions.org_Wiki namespace. To find out how to link to them you can look at one of the current links, but I'll add a little note about namespaces to the help section.

--jeremy

Skyline 02-23-2004 07:38 AM

Thanks for clarifying - just worked out how to do it: for anyone whose interested: - to link to the stub article/disclaimer.

[[LinuxQuestions.org_Wiki:stub_articles|stub]]

Just pipe the last part of the page address through the stub name.

I'll put a note in the WIki markup help section. (I've put it here - click below)

http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/...rg:Wiki_markup

Skyline 02-23-2004 08:27 AM

Actually - piecing the whole stub disclaimer together we have:

This article is a stub and needs to be finished. plunge forward and help it grow!

which with the markup becomes:

This article is a [[LinuxQuestions.org_Wiki:stub_articles|stub]] and needs to be finished. [[LinuxQuestions.org_Wiki:plunging_forward|plunge forward]] and [[LinuxQuestions.org_Wiki:How_to_edit_a_page|Help it grow]] !

jeremy 02-23-2004 08:50 AM

Eventually we will have our own markup page, but for now it's a bit bare:

http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/...ki:Wiki_markup

--jeremy

Skyline 02-23-2004 09:04 AM

Jeremy - would it be of any use to put the full markup for the stub disclaimer in the main (bare) wiki markup page temporarily or just put it in the user contributed page (I've put a brief description in the user contributed page for now - can expand on this in the user contrib. page if it isnt neccesary in the main page)

Another question - whilst going through the weeding process, if there are 2 instances of KDE in an article for example do we just link up to the first instance and leave any further instances as normal text?

jeremy 02-23-2004 10:23 AM

I don't think the stub disclaimer is necessary as I plan on completing the wiki markup document at some point. For now the article it references is *very* complete ;) As for the second question, you should only link the first instance of the word. Thanks Skyline.

--jeremy

Skyline 02-23-2004 11:11 AM

No probs Jer. - another idea - something that might be of use would be a "weeding script" - one task it could perform would be to:

For every recognised link such as:

OpenOffice, KDE, Kernel

etc etc etc etc

the script would search through every page in the Wiki for first instances of unlinked text per page which match the top level link (and the page not already having a relevant link on it)

One could then either get the script to:

automatically change the first instance of matched text per page into a link, or atleast flag those pages up for further scrutiny to see whether its appropriate to create a link from that page.

Any thoughts.

jeremy 02-23-2004 11:43 AM

I don't anticipate a need for this, but as we get going if the need arises we can look into it.

--jeremy

aaa 02-23-2004 12:51 PM

On the main page in the sidebar, under 'Edit', there is an 'Editing Help' link that points to 'How_does_one_edit_a_page'. Shouldn't it instead point to 'How_to_edit_a_page'?

jeremy 02-23-2004 01:04 PM

Thanks aaa - it's been updated.

--jeremy

aaa 02-23-2004 01:30 PM

Also, the bullets look very different in IE
** looks like one dot instead of two
* is just an indent
This flips things around. Can anything be done?
Edit: I fixed it.

LinuxLala 02-24-2004 09:53 AM

Every now and again I find that the wiki site stops working. I mean, I open it, add content, make changes and go on. But after some time, suppose I am on the main page, no matter on which link I click, the page does not open.

The error is Operation Timed Out.

Nothing wrong with my internet connection as I can browse the net easily.

frieza 02-24-2004 09:56 AM

the wiki is cool, i signed up myself :D great idea

jeremy 02-24-2004 10:17 PM

Just wanted to thank everyone for the Wiki feedback. While I am still finishing up the help section (especially the style manual) I now consider the Wiki out of beta. If you have any more feedback though, feel free to add it to this thread.

--jeremy

Skyline 02-26-2004 10:53 PM

Jeremy - about the Apps page in the WIki - take it that you mean just to leave it how it is at the moment - ie we won't be needing a Table of contents/Sections for that page - just to clarify - also - what do you think about the WIki markup guide so far - any changes you think should be made, etc?

jeremy 02-27-2004 08:33 AM

Skyline, are you referring to my response on the talk page? If so please respond there so others following the discussion don't get lost ;) Thanks.

Skyline 02-27-2004 09:05 AM

No probs ;)


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