Kali Linux sticky thread?

Given all of the posts about Kali Linux, I feel that it's worth asking the question, would a sticky thread for Kali Linux help?

I have noticed a number of questions about Kali, and more often than not, asking questions that have already been answered (weather that's here at LQ or elsewhere).

The purpose of the sticky (quite possibly among others) would be to hopefully direct members asking questions about Kali, to a single source of information about it. Also to help other members better help on other unrelated issues/questions.

If members feel that this could be useful;

- what should the scope of it be?
- where should it be placed in the forums? (eg. Newbies forum)

As one of the common themes with questions about Kali, seem to be from people that think it can be used as a "general purpose" system.

I just think this is wasting other members time that could be far better spent on other questions, particularly in the "Newbies" forum.

Wondering what other members (and LQ) might think about the idea?

Perhaps a Kali forum with a sticky to their website?

Originally Posted by jsbjsb001 - where should it be placed in the forums? (eg. Newbies forum)

Along with the message "Kali is not a beginner's system. It is a system designed for security professionals. It is intended to be neither a general purpose system nor a hacking guide."

There is a reason idiots post Kali questions on every forum except the Kali forum. Basic configuration questions are not answered there nor should they be.

I just think this is wasting other members time that could be far better spent on other questions, particularly in the "Newbies" forum.

Honestly, the best response is "If you need to ask such a simple question, you are not ready to use it." Perhaps followed by a learn to walk before trying to run reference.

Originally Posted by Randicus Draco Albus Honestly, the best response is "If you need to ask such a simple question, you are not ready to use it." Perhaps followed by a learn to walk before trying to run reference.

So VERY, VERY, VERY agreed.

While I was kinda hoping for at least a few more reply's (and more feedback is most welcome), I would like to hear what LQ (including mod's) thoughts are on this;

@jeremy and @any and all mod's; Would I be able to pick your brains on this?

I am prepared to start writing a draft "proposal" if further feedback is in favour/thinks it could be useful. But I would like to get as much feedback from both LQ/mod's and members in general as I can, first. As, I think the more feedback the better!

Originally Posted by 273 Perhaps a Kali forum with a sticky to their website?

then make the whole subforum read only.
sounds like a good plan.

Originally Posted by ondoho then make the whole subforum read only. sounds like a good plan.

Indeed!
I have to admit that I am Kali-curious and would like to read threads regarding its use for its intended purpose. However, I don't recall ever seeing such a thread.

I concur with idea of read-only Kali subforum. Certainly there should be mentioned while Kali is designed for offense it has no defense, thus it is totally unsuitable for everyday use. It is possible indeed to create regular users and strengthen Kali to be used as a daily distro, but as a rule those unable to solve trivial problems they have with Kali are not capable of such setup.

I am sorry to say, but I don't think the moderators of this forum see it fit to direct Kali Linux script kiddies to a sticky thread where they basically are told to dump their Kali Linux.
Posters with one, two or three posts, posting strict one-sentence questions and never giving any clarifications, are most warmly welcomed, and dozens of experts insist of giving advice. Often based on assumptions what the OP could have meant. More than once I have opposed against this policy, insisting that we should ask posters a sufficiently clear problem description before they were entitled to a guessed solution.
The typical Kali Linux thread start is still: "How do I find out what Debian version my Kali is based upon?" or "How to install KDE Plasma in Kali". As first, second of third post.
I am in favor of such a sticky thread, and hope those posters are directed to this thread. And the experts here dedicate their time to answering real problems instead of guessing what wireless card is used in the question: "Help!! How to enable wifi in Kali Linux".
A security export would know what he is doing when using Kali, and probably would not need this forum. And if he does, he would certainly be recognized.

jlinkels

Originally Posted by jlinkels The typical Kali Linux thread start is still: "How do I find out what Debian version my Kali is based upon?" or "How to install KDE Plasma in Kali". As first, second of third post.

And "How do I configure the internet (or wireless) connection?" Although my favourites are installing KDE/Gnome, and getting games to work. It is be like asking how to install air conditioning or a stereo in a drag racing car or dune buggy. But such is the state of Linuxland.

Thanks for your reply's guy's, assuming my X server does not refuse to start again, I will try and put something together within the next couple of days or so. It will probably be only a rough draft for the moment, though.

Any content or other suggestions are very welcome.

If you are new to Linux and are trying to Linux stall Kali, the following are essential pieces of information:
1. [Place a quote from the Kali website describing how the system is designed for security professionals and is not for Linux beginners.]
[Link to the above quote.]
2. Be aware that because of the professional use the system is designed for, most veteran uses are unwilling to assist people seeking help with basic issues, such as configuring an internet connection, how to create a user account, etc.
3. If you are not well-versed in administrating a Linux system, you are advised to postpone your installation of Kali until after you have gained the requisite knowledge.

[Perhaps 4.
Links to various distributions recommended for beginners.]

I've typed up a draft for a Kali Linux sticky, I tried to make it as simple and as short as I could, while using feedback already kindly provided by reply's to this thread.

I've attached it in a text file, so it's easier for members to review. Please feel free to make any suggestions you think could make it better, as I have included some questions within the attached file as well. Also, I want to allow enough time for members to review before submitting it to LQ for consideration.

Thanks everyone for your time (and reply's)

You would need to choose a "newbie" suitable Linux distribution # I think there are 2 ways we can go here ether a list of "newbie" distro's or https://distrowatch.com/ (or a simlar site). # I'm not sure which way to go here? #

A short list of the main distros should be sufficient. Like Debian, Mint, Suse, Ubuntu. (My list is in alphabetical order, not order of preference.)

Perhaps add a "be prepared to read documentation, especially if you want to advance your skills" warning.

I think it is an excellent draft, and will give some time to let other comments come in before taking the actions to make it a sticky.

Open to title suggestions. Mine would be, "An Introduction to Kali Linux"

Open to forum suggestions. I'm fine with Newbie. We do not have a Kali forum and I do not believe one will be created without any Kali maintainers willing to actively participate. That's an LQ guideline which I do agree is a good one. If there are other suggestions, please do share.

@jsbjsb001: Great work!

For when the draft is final, I'll suggest you post a clean copy here in this thread. Because what we will do, is to move that single post to create the sticky. This will maintain you as the author, as it should be.

@jlinkels: I may have misunderstood your thoughts and apologize for any misinterpretation. My inputs about your statements would be that it is up to all LQ members, of any level, to engage all new posting members correctly, and effectively. I think you are saying the same as this, which is that a sticky is much like the links for things like the LQ Rules or the Site FAQ, and that they are only as good as the two properties where we point unknowing members to them, and also those members do respond by heeding the suggested advice from us.

Best Regards,

- RT