It certainly should work that way! It's far more sensible to base a new version on work that's already been done than to throw it all away and start again every time.


In case you haven't noticed, they are not "on track" at all, they are running several months behind the Windows version!

yes, that makes sense - sometimes... could you simply apply a few small patches to kernel 2.0 and then end-up with a 2.6?? no, you can't... sometimes work that has already been done doesn't cut it, and a lot of new code must be written (or in this case, ported - since it was already written) and a lot of old code must be discarded...

also, i think you're under the impression that they will have to re-port everytime a new windoze version is released... i honestly don't see any reason so that once the code is properly ported develpment won't be able to move alongside the windows code... but whatever, you obviously don't see it that way so i'll just leave it at that - i agree that we disagree...

well, i was referring to the development track - not the release track... in other words, i think they made the right choice by porting, instead of writing from scratch or applying a few updates to the broken code in v7...

as for being several months behind the windoze version: porting is not an easy thing to do, especially when you have an ambitious project like this - it takes time - that's the reality... your complaint about flash v9 for linux "running several months behind" the windoze version doesn't make any sense IMHO... it's like if you complained about the PPC version of linux lagging behind the x86 one while it was still being ported for the first time... :rolleyes:

Development of the Linux version hasn't moved alongside development of the Windows version in the past, so what makes you think it will in the future? They decided to throw all the work on the Linux version away and start porting all over again this time, so what makes you think they won't do the same again next time? They didn't even bother to release a Linux version last time, so what makes you think they will next time?

They haven't exactly got a good record for releasing Linux versions on time, if at all. It would be good if they did release all Linux versions of Flash Player, and release them on time, but experience has shown that they don't.

Firstly, this is not the first time.

Secondly, if they had developed the Linux version in parallel to the Windows version then they could quite reasonably have released both at the same time. There is no reason why they should wait until the Windows version has been released before even bothering to look at porting it to Linux. Doing this has done Linux users a great disservice.

i never said that it would, i said that it could... and the reason for me thinking like this is the fact that this is a fresh start, with a different strategy and a new outlook... they've said they are trying to make the linux version to be on par with the windoze version - they've never done that before - so whenever you try to equate this with the past, you are comitting a fallacy...

that is false, and i already explained why it's false before, so i won't do it again...

because next time something will exist which doesn't exist today - a full-featured port... by comparing tomorrow with yesterday, you are comparing apples and oranges IMHO...

they?? you mean macromedia or adobe?? either way, are you surprised?? have you any idea how small the linux desktop market was/is?? of course, the market is growing slowly but steadily, and i for one am thankful that adobe has decided to provide us with this port... i'd even bet that they are losing money doing this... but at least they have their foot in the door for the future, when gnu/linux gets its fair share of the desktop market...

you still can't see that they've never been as comitted to this as they are now, can you?? apples and oranges once again... the situation before was quite different - now we have what will hopefully be a really great port of some really great technology, and we'll just have to see what happens... it's futile to argue about things that have never happened...

it is INDEED the first time anyone (whether macromedia or adobe) has comitted themselves so seriously to this... i'm not sure why you can't see that - it's spelled-out in pretty much any interview with the head developer...

why on earth would they have done that?? that makes like zero business sense - especially back in the day when flash got started and you'd need a CS degree to install gnu/linux on a desktop...

oh please, spare me... they don't owe you or me anything... they are a corporation, not some sourceforge project... they only answer to their investors... IMHO we should be greatful they are taking the linux desktop so seriously at this time, even though it's barely a blip on the radar screen...

Outlook express should be ported to Linux!!!!!!!!














.....just kidding guys!! :D

Where did I say anything about being supriesed? All I did was point out the fact that they didn't release a Linux version last time, which is totally true. Sinve they didn't make a version last time, it's perfectly reasonable to question whwther they will next time.

What do you define as "committing themselves seriously"? They are planning to release a Linux version (although very late), but that's nothing they haven't done before.

How is it different? They had a Linux version before, and they are planning ot have one again. What's different about that?

The reasons for doing that or not are not the issue here. The point here is that they didn't, which is an indication that they might not next time.

Not even bothering to release one version at all, then releasing the next so extremely late hardly constitutes "taking the linux desktop seriously".


PS - Can you please stop insulting my posts? It's perfectly possibel to discuss the issues at hand without littering your posts with lines like "I dont't know why you can't see..." or "you still can't see that...". Just because I don't agree with everything you say doesn't mean I'm stupid, and I would appreciate not being talked at in such a condescending tone in future.

it's starting to look like i'm getting paid by adobe to defend them from your FUD storm... but since i'm *not* getting paid by them, i'll just leave it at that...

I would like to see NTI CD & DVD burner for KDE.

i wanted to know, if there's any P2P program (not based on Torrents)
like ARES, or Limewire in Windoz??

ARES has a linux version
Limewire has a Linux version

can i get these on SF.net?? or some other sites??

whoops made a boo boo

ares is not ported.. sorry

limewire is though.

www.limewire.com

I've no idea what a "FUD storm" is, but it doesn't sound like a very polite term. You obviously haven't read my PS (or got the basic manners not to insult people anyway!)

i think the limewire's Linux port, is not so stable...
Troubled me a lot...!!

i've runned it once (few weeks back)
no problems...:)